Driverless cars in the UK
Discussion
TTmonkey said:
CTrickle said:
This could be excellent. Can I drive to the pub in one. Drink freely then get it to drive me home?
WIN WIN!
The current law says no. You will still be in charge of a motor vehicle, therefore the police will be able to stop the car and force you to do a breath test, which you will fail, and then you will be banned. You wont be allowed to use your driverless car, as to use one you will still need a full valid drivers license.WIN WIN!
Those that beleive this is a free taxi ride home for piss heads from the pub are rather silly.
I'd be interested to see how these work somewhere like oxford circus.
I'm guessing these things won't be programmed to show aggressive nature / honk and edge forwards in heavy pedestrian traffic, I'm kind of envisioning the cars to just sit there and never move again until the shoppers go home
I'm guessing these things won't be programmed to show aggressive nature / honk and edge forwards in heavy pedestrian traffic, I'm kind of envisioning the cars to just sit there and never move again until the shoppers go home
TTmonkey said:
Those that beleive this is a free taxi ride home for piss heads from the pub are rather silly.
The "market leader" for driverless cars is Google. Google owns Uber (the Taxi service). How long before Uber uses driverless cars?Yes, to begin with you'll need to be alert and in control. 50 years from now you won't need to be. Precisely when the law will change I don't know, but it will one day.
Have to admit, its an interesting development, but also one I'd approach with huge caution.
Whilst ever there are manually driven lorrys on the motorways, I'll stick with something that lets me get the hell out of the way if they aren't paying attention.
For this to really work safely, it needs to be an all-or-nothing scinareo. I don't think we've managed driverless trains yet, and they just move up and down on rails... cars, far too complex at this stage.
How about we improve rail/tram tech for commuters and leave the cars as a thing that people who enjoy them want to use.
Whilst ever there are manually driven lorrys on the motorways, I'll stick with something that lets me get the hell out of the way if they aren't paying attention.
For this to really work safely, it needs to be an all-or-nothing scinareo. I don't think we've managed driverless trains yet, and they just move up and down on rails... cars, far too complex at this stage.
How about we improve rail/tram tech for commuters and leave the cars as a thing that people who enjoy them want to use.
Paul O said:
Have to admit, its an interesting development, but also one I'd approach with huge caution.
Whilst ever there are manually driven lorrys on the motorways, I'll stick with something that lets me get the hell out of the way if they aren't paying attention.
For this to really work safely, it needs to be an all-or-nothing scinareo. I don't think we've managed driverless trains yet, and they just move up and down on rails... cars, far too complex at this stage.
How about we improve rail/tram tech for commuters and leave the cars as a thing that people who enjoy them want to use.
I think the driverless trains thing has mor to do with the strength of the train drivers Unions than with technology issues. Whilst ever there are manually driven lorrys on the motorways, I'll stick with something that lets me get the hell out of the way if they aren't paying attention.
For this to really work safely, it needs to be an all-or-nothing scinareo. I don't think we've managed driverless trains yet, and they just move up and down on rails... cars, far too complex at this stage.
How about we improve rail/tram tech for commuters and leave the cars as a thing that people who enjoy them want to use.
RIP Bob.
y2blade said:
Hoofy said:
Can't wait. Obviously, pointless for a trackday but my regular dull commutes, I'd rather do something more interesting.
+1 I've said it for years, I'd love to be able to push a button and let the car do some of the driving for me.bring it on
This will not work in large numbers, I see it as a bit of a gimmick really. Are you really going to throw driverless and non driverless cars into the same mix? As someone else posted it has to be all or nothing.
Really cannot see how the major car makers are going to handle this, as everything becomes dumbed down to a box on 4 wheels, with some electronics thrown in. I just cannot see how this will work on a grand scale. Who will manage the data? what will it cost to use this data?. Yes google have tested cars over thousands of miles, they have not tested thousands/millions of cars doing complex journeys. What happens if the network/satellite goes down. If I run out of fuel or get a puncture I can sort it out myself fairly easily. Too many questions not answered.
In the main I believe this to be more about control of people, I trust Google about as much as the labour party.
Really cannot see how the major car makers are going to handle this, as everything becomes dumbed down to a box on 4 wheels, with some electronics thrown in. I just cannot see how this will work on a grand scale. Who will manage the data? what will it cost to use this data?. Yes google have tested cars over thousands of miles, they have not tested thousands/millions of cars doing complex journeys. What happens if the network/satellite goes down. If I run out of fuel or get a puncture I can sort it out myself fairly easily. Too many questions not answered.
In the main I believe this to be more about control of people, I trust Google about as much as the labour party.
Riley Blue said:
Hoofy said:
Can't wait. Obviously, pointless for a trackday but my regular dull commutes, I'd rather do something more interesting.
Isn't that supposedly one of the advantages of public transport? I can see this working if all vehicles were using the same system, so that the movements of other vehicles were predictable, but I'm not so sure it would work with a mixture of automated and human-controlled vehicles, as the software would need to be capable of responding to individually-unpredictable patterns of behaviour.
I also cannot see it being introduced compulsarily, as this would be politically a vote-loser, and so it would have to be adopted voluntarily, e.g: by business people wanting to work on the move or arrive at meetings less fatigues, etc. I guess companies might also want to adopt it for their fleets for insurance and/or health and safety reasons.
Under those circumstances, it's most likely a mix of automated and human-controlled vehicles would exist on the roads and so I'm not sure if the technology would be able to handle that.
It would certainly be a great leap of faith to get in a self-driving car, though I'd welcome it for long boring trips and also as a cyclist I'd have more confidence that automated cars would not hit me....
I also cannot see it being introduced compulsarily, as this would be politically a vote-loser, and so it would have to be adopted voluntarily, e.g: by business people wanting to work on the move or arrive at meetings less fatigues, etc. I guess companies might also want to adopt it for their fleets for insurance and/or health and safety reasons.
Under those circumstances, it's most likely a mix of automated and human-controlled vehicles would exist on the roads and so I'm not sure if the technology would be able to handle that.
It would certainly be a great leap of faith to get in a self-driving car, though I'd welcome it for long boring trips and also as a cyclist I'd have more confidence that automated cars would not hit me....
Riley Blue said:
Hoofy said:
Can't wait. Obviously, pointless for a trackday but my regular dull commutes, I'd rather do something more interesting.
Isn't that supposedly one of the advantages of public transport? Negative Creep said:
y2blade said:
Hoofy said:
Can't wait. Obviously, pointless for a trackday but my regular dull commutes, I'd rather do something more interesting.
+1 I've said it for years, I'd love to be able to push a button and let the car do some of the driving for me.bring it on
Negative Creep said:
But again, it's only the first step to banning human controlled cars from the roads completely, and if they do that there is no way they'll allow motorbikes on a public road either
I suspect that may be the end-point, although we may take a few decades to reach it.Most people won't care at all so it wouldn't be resisted very strongly.
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