RE: Range Rover Sport SVR 'ring time
Discussion
RacerMike said:
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As you work there, why was it decided not to offer any tyres for the Range Rover which are more use off-road? Can't even buy alternatives in the OEM sizes (not even the skinny 19"). Scorpion Verde/Eagle F1/CrossContact LX aren't much use in the average English field.vee5 said:
Grotesque. I simply do not understand the interest in trying to make something (an SUV) that is inherently unsuitable for track driving (heavy, large, high CoG) go round a circuit (where it is highly unlikely to be used by paying punters) more quickly than you'd think possible.
If I consider it from an ownership proposition, why would you be proud of hooning around a circuit in something which would have punched a large hole in the scenery before it got to Hatzenbach if all the clever electronics were disabled? It's not like your superior driving skills are being allowed to shine through….
I don't blame the marketing people for trying it on, I'm just disappointed that people seem to be susceptible to such shallow tactics.
But maybe some people want a big car that isn't utter turkey to drive? If I consider it from an ownership proposition, why would you be proud of hooning around a circuit in something which would have punched a large hole in the scenery before it got to Hatzenbach if all the clever electronics were disabled? It's not like your superior driving skills are being allowed to shine through….
I don't blame the marketing people for trying it on, I'm just disappointed that people seem to be susceptible to such shallow tactics.
High driving position can be fun, toys to play with etc.
Not my sort of car but I can understand it.
LewisR said:
Now let's see how good it is on an off road coarse, with the sam tyres etc. compared to a Defender 90.
I drove a Defender for nearly 300 miles last week and whilst I love it and regard it as possibly the most fun on four wheels, I can't deny that it's terrible as an every day proposition. I own a supercharged sport, it does nothing that I want to do that I can't do in my Peugeot 208, it costs a lot to run, it's bad for the environment, its hard to park in tight spaces, basically there is no need for it. But I love it, I'm glad there's a company out there that thinks why not, lets make this.
Max_Torque said:
Why you'd want to drive a RRS around the 'ring instead of a 1M coupe though is more difficult to explain...... ;-)
(and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
Lol you really think trying to hustle a 2.5 tonne 550bhp house round the ring would be boring?(and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
Clivey said:
All of which is rendered useless (or less useful) with a sporty bodykit that ruins clearance. Also, which tyres are they using? Unless they're all terrains, all this thing will do off-road is spin all four wheels.
I can understand a performance SUV but I'd prefer mine to be more "Bowler", rather than an "XF-R on stilts". As it looks, I'd rather the upgraded engine and drivetrain with a standard exterior and sensible wheels.
My L322 constantly amazes me what it can do off-road without ATs on. So I don't think this will have an issue. The body kit will get a bit scraped about, but I'm guessing whoever buys one of these wants to not get stuck in snow or floods and likes to sit in comfort. And for that the transferbox and wading depth are overkill.I can understand a performance SUV but I'd prefer mine to be more "Bowler", rather than an "XF-R on stilts". As it looks, I'd rather the upgraded engine and drivetrain with a standard exterior and sensible wheels.
FrankUnderwood said:
LewisR said:
Now let's see how good it is on an off road coarse, with the sam tyres etc. compared to a Defender 90.
I drove a Defender for nearly 300 miles last week and whilst I love it and regard it as possibly the most fun on four wheels, I can't deny that it's terrible as an every day Interestingly compared to a defender 90 (one of which I own) a new sport will (standard) wade deeper and unless the defender has traction control be much better when cross axled. Then again unless I had money to burn I'd try and avoid anaything to extreme in an 80k sport
I love 4x4 topics, the hatred, the rage, the t
ts!! 
15 years ago people were saying, I love my 4x4, if it only handled better on road I would have it as my only car, but it handles like a boat so I also have my estate/saloon as well.
Now we are at the point where these do the job of the saloon/estate and do the 4x4 thing, both pretty damed well, they are totally pointless?
No, some people just get annoyed by them as they are something they don't like/need, and therefore have to chastise anyone who does buy one.
Classic thread in the making this one!!
ts!! 15 years ago people were saying, I love my 4x4, if it only handled better on road I would have it as my only car, but it handles like a boat so I also have my estate/saloon as well.
Now we are at the point where these do the job of the saloon/estate and do the 4x4 thing, both pretty damed well, they are totally pointless?
No, some people just get annoyed by them as they are something they don't like/need, and therefore have to chastise anyone who does buy one.
Classic thread in the making this one!!
dukebox9reg said:
Max_Torque said:
Why you'd want to drive a RRS around the 'ring instead of a 1M coupe though is more difficult to explain...... ;-)
(and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
Lol you really think trying to hustle a 2.5 tonne 550bhp house round the ring would be boring?(and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
gizlaroc said:
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15 years ago people were saying, I love my 4x4, if it only handled better on road I would have it as my only car, but it handles like a boat so I also have my estate/saloon as well.
Now we are at the point where these do the job of the saloon/estate and do the 4x4 thing, both pretty damed well....
I think you are on to something here. Instead of a roly poly barge the RRS actually handles reasonably well. Added to which this seems to be another box ticked to add to the Pike`s Peak climb and the fast scoot across the desert of the Empty Quarter.15 years ago people were saying, I love my 4x4, if it only handled better on road I would have it as my only car, but it handles like a boat so I also have my estate/saloon as well.
Now we are at the point where these do the job of the saloon/estate and do the 4x4 thing, both pretty damed well....
P4ROT said:
mrpushrod said:
On seeing this I immediately thought back a few years to the BMW X5 Le Mans concept, I think even the SVR would fold compared to this....
The slow speed stuff may be a bit tricky though, from memory you couldn't give it all the beans in the first couple of gears as the drivetrain couldn't handle it. I suppose that's what happens when you put a Le Mans V12 into an X5!
Cheers for sharing- never heard of that- looks awesome!The slow speed stuff may be a bit tricky though, from memory you couldn't give it all the beans in the first couple of gears as the drivetrain couldn't handle it. I suppose that's what happens when you put a Le Mans V12 into an X5!
EDIT: You can put those wheels on any car and it looks x10 better- so timeless.
Edited by P4ROT on Wednesday 30th July 11:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5HZ7AEG0TQ
V12 sounds good!Max_Torque said:
Why you'd want to drive a RRS around the 'ring instead of a 1M coupe though is more difficult to explain...... ;-)
(and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
As an exercise in sticking the V's up at anyone else who is in the "sporty" SUV sector though, it's done a grand job. (and, of course, after that single flying lap, the RRS will be 1) out of fuel, 2) have no tyres left, 3) have cooked its brakes, but most seriously 4) bored it's driver to tears)
This is yet more Pub Ammo for the sort of inconsiderate idiots who buy and then brag about their RRS's...............
And lots of people are talking about it.
Despite it being a "pointless exercise".
I'd say that's job done.
As an engineering achievement (something you should understand!) it's both brilliant and hilarious.
It handles well, can outdrag lots of normal cars, can seat 5 adults with luggage, tow a caravan really well and ps off lots of people in the process.
What's not to like about it.
You can get AT tyres in both 20 and 22 inch size should you wish for them. I've seen a few L322s with 22s with AT tyres.
So that should cover the muddy part if you needed.
s off lots of people in the process.What's not to like about it.
You can get AT tyres in both 20 and 22 inch size should you wish for them. I've seen a few L322s with 22s with AT tyres.
So that should cover the muddy part if you needed.
A.J.M said:
It handles well, can outdrag lots of normal cars, can seat 5 adults with luggage, tow a caravan really well and ps off lots of people in the process.
What's not to like about it.
The fact it's a triumph of marketing over sense. All of those things on that list (except perhaps pissing off other road users) can be done better, and cheaper by a normal estate or saloon car, without any of the compromised involved with having to make it capable of "going off road" despite the fact exactly none of the people buying that car will actually do so. Added to which, in the UK, LR will sell precisely 3 V8 superchargered Petrol models, and about 50,000 diesel V6s, which can't lap the 'ring in 8.14........s off lots of people in the process.What's not to like about it.
(ok, the V8SC is not really about the UK, but still)
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