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[Ved]

Truckosaurus said:

Farah gives his opinion on Harris leaving /DRIVE on the latest Smoking Tire (sic) podcast.

Turmoil

Interesting. Downloading it now.
The blame game begins:
To paraphrase....Chris bailed, Chris wasn't a team player, Chris didn't like getting less viewers, "I don't know him that well...pretty fking shameful to bail that fast."

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-smoking-ti... 19 mins onwards.

Bridges burned. Chris will end up well above /Drivel

Edited by Ved on Wednesday 15th October 15:46

[sagarich]

Ved said:

Truckosaurus said:

Farah gives his opinion on Harris leaving /DRIVE on the latest Smoking Tire (sic) podcast.

Turmoil

Interesting. Downloading it now.
The blame game begins:
To paraphrase....Chris bailed, Chris wasn't a team player, Chris didn't like getting less viewers, "I don't know him that well...pretty fking shameful to bail that fast."

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-smoking-ti... 19 mins onwards.

Bridges burned. Chris will end up well above /Drivel

Edited by Ved on Wednesday 15th October 15:46

Wow! Just listened to it... Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

[SpeedBall]

Matt Farah wouldn't know 'class' if it hung a doughnut in front of his nose. He admitted that he does little more than submit content for DRIVE and pick up a pay cheque from it - and that he's only hung out with Harris a few times. Then he starts talking about CH not being a 'team player' like they're all big buddies?

I wonder if NBCSN would have offered them another season if they knew that CH had been planning to move on. Without his input DRIVE will have all the credibility of TopGear USA.

Then again, listening to Matt Farah in that podcast, I honestly don't think he cares as long as there's some money in it for him, and there are people he can shout his opinion at...

[loudlashadjuster]

Now, where'd I leave that popcorn.gif?

Manbags at 20 paces!

[Chicane-UK]

SpeedBall said:

Matt Farah wouldn't know 'class' if it hung a doughnut in front of his nose. He admitted that he does little more than submit content for DRIVE and pick up a pay cheque from it - and that he's only hung out with Harris a few times. Then he starts talking about CH not being a 'team player' like they're all big buddies?

I wonder if NBCSN would have offered them another season if they knew that CH had been planning to move on. Without his input DRIVE will have all the credibility of TopGear USA.

Then again, listening to Matt Farah in that podcast, I honestly don't think he cares as long as there's some money in it for him, and there are people he can shout his opinion at...

I have to say though - it was a very enjoyable podcast, dirty laundry aside. I literally listen to ONE other podcast as normally they just bore me to death but listening to that was just like chatting cars in the pub with a mate - I really enjoyed it!

I'll still watch whatever Chris Harris produces on YouTube but you have to admit it's pretty messed up how none of his co-presenters on Drive knew this was happening until they read about it on a public news source. That's pretty effed up.

[Dave Hedgehog]

SpeedBall said:

Matt Farah wouldn't know 'class' if it hung a doughnut in front of his nose. He admitted that he does little more than submit content for DRIVE and pick up a pay cheque from it - and that he's only hung out with Harris a few times. Then he starts talking about CH not being a 'team player' like they're all big buddies?

I wonder if NBCSN would have offered them another season if they knew that CH had been planning to move on. Without his input DRIVE will have all the credibility of TopGear USA.

Then again, listening to Matt Farah in that podcast, I honestly don't think he cares as long as there's some money in it for him, and there are people he can shout his opinion at...

you have to love fanboys

[Ollywood]

Dave Hedgehog said:

SpeedBall said:

Matt Farah wouldn't know 'class' if it hung a doughnut in front of his nose. He admitted that he does little more than submit content for DRIVE and pick up a pay cheque from it - and that he's only hung out with Harris a few times. Then he starts talking about CH not being a 'team player' like they're all big buddies?

I wonder if NBCSN would have offered them another season if they knew that CH had been planning to move on. Without his input DRIVE will have all the credibility of TopGear USA.

Then again, listening to Matt Farah in that podcast, I honestly don't think he cares as long as there's some money in it for him, and there are people he can shout his opinion at...

you have to love fanboys

+1

and if you have look at JF Musiel's twitter feed it does seem like Drive + was an experiment.

[0llie]

Truckosaurus said:

Farah gives his opinion on Harris leaving /DRIVE on the latest Smoking Tire (sic) podcast.

Turmoil

Err, wow!

[Ved]

sagarich said:

Wow! Just listened to it... Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

Yep not good. As I said on the other thread... The fault is on their management to not lock in their contributors to a contract so this can't happen. It may not be a graceful way to leave but if there's nothing stopping someone leaving (a sinking ship) then there is little to cry about in reality. Anyone would think Chris had bills to pay, ambition and could not spot a dead business. Said it all when MF said they now wanted to make it an American brand. Good luck, all yours.

[Mezzanine]

Chicane-UK said:

I have to say though - it was a very enjoyable podcast, dirty laundry aside. I literally listen to ONE other podcast as normally they just bore me to death but listening to that was just like chatting cars in the pub with a mate - I really enjoyed it!

I'll still watch whatever Chris Harris produces on YouTube but you have to admit it's pretty messed up how none of his co-presenters on Drive knew this was happening until they read about it on a public news source. That's pretty effed up.

If you can accept that it is 'American' in every respect, it is a great podcast for car people.They have some good guests and you can tell Farah really knows far too much about far too many cars.

[Ollywood]

Ved said:

sagarich said:

Wow! Just listened to it... Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

Yep not good. As I said on the other thread... The fault is on their management to not lock in their contributors to a contract so this can't happen. It may not be a graceful way to leave but if there's nothing stopping someone leaving (a sinking ship) then there is little to cry about in reality. Anyone would think Chris had bills to pay, ambition and could not spot a dead business. Said it all when MF said they now wanted to make it an American brand. Good luck, all yours.

From the podcast it did sound like CH was in the management as he pushed the whole subscription service.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Thanks for linking the podcast-never listened to one before & really enjoyed it I do quite like the guy who presents teg smoking tyre thing, sounds like a guy you'd enjoy a pint with.

The slating of SCoH begins at around 16mins for anyone who just wants the gossip.

[Ved]

Ollywood said:

From the podcast it did sound like CH was in the management as he pushed the whole subscription service.

By the sound of it, and how it's been ran since subscription came in, there was a massive lack of management if anything.

CHoC
Harry's Garage
Mighty Car Mods (still the best)
Roadkill
Evo

That's all you need and cost nothing. Shame there isn't a PH channel worth crowing about... Dan....

[KTF]

contango said:

Well played by Harris, push Drive into subscription, disappear to start your own video channel, one less competitor!

You can see why that might be slightly annoying to the other members of Drive.

[hdrflow]

Ved said:

CHoC
Harry's Garage
Mighty Car Mods (still the best)
Roadkill
Evo

That's all you need and cost nothing. Shame there isn't a PH channel worth crowing about... Dan....

All of MotorTrend is pretty good not just Roadkill. But Roadkill also needs advertising to keep going these days (or to make some more money). Petrolicious is also awesome. There's an awful lot of excellent free content .

Never subscribed to Drive+ and some of their stuff wasn't really interesting. A lot of After Drive episodes I wasn't really interested but at least they had a lot of variety in the original channel.

All the best to CH on his new venture although a lot of oversteering at Anglesey is also boring at times. The 512TR episode was awesome and I hope he produces a mix of things. As for Drive they'll need to go back to basics and build up from there I think.

[Mezzanine]

Ollywood said:

Ved said:

sagarich said:

Wow! Just listened to it... Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

Yep not good. As I said on the other thread... The fault is on their management to not lock in their contributors to a contract so this can't happen. It may not be a graceful way to leave but if there's nothing stopping someone leaving (a sinking ship) then there is little to cry about in reality. Anyone would think Chris had bills to pay, ambition and could not spot a dead business. Said it all when MF said they now wanted to make it an American brand. Good luck, all yours.

From the podcast it did sound like CH was in the management as he pushed the whole subscription service.

I think Harris is one third investor/owner of the company responsible for Drive? CH, JF Musial and Emil Rensing?

[SpeedBall]

Dave Hedgehog said:

you have to love fanboys

Which would make you a fanboyfanboy

I'm not enough of a fanboy to have ever paid for any of their videos though

[AlexMG]

peterattheboro said:

Great news Drive has/is going down the pan.

I want Chris and Farah to team up as they have great on screen chemistry. Shame they live on different continents

Unfortunately it seems Mr Farah found out at the same time we did and that's not the gentlemanly thing to do as far as he's concerned.

His side of it is at around 18:00 if I remember correctly

http://shoutengine.com/TheSmokingTire/everyday-con...

To be honest I just like their videos and don't pay attention to their outside persona but that seems to be the hot topic now.

[Mr Whippy]

He says, "More talented editors and shooters."

Hire them then! If these super talented editors and shooters exist that can churn out at 2x the rate but the same or higher quality (haha)


They're all a bunch of idiots imo. The YT subsidy ending was a line in the sand that they knew about years away and they just ran into it and then wondered how to make a business out of it.

A perfect example of how not to run a media businesses.


Dave

[DonkeyApple]

Mr Whippy said:

He says, "More talented editors and shooters."

Hire them then! If these super talented editors and shooters exist that can churn out at 2x the rate but the same or higher quality (haha)


They're all a bunch of idiots imo. The YT subsidy ending was a line in the sand that they knew about years away and they just ran into it and then wondered how to make a business out of it.

A perfect example of how not to run a media businesses.


Dave