RE: Pay per view: PH Blog

RE: Pay per view: PH Blog

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MissChief

7,095 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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KTF said:
Ad Block Plus will sort that out for you.
Which is part of the problem. You're not helping, you're slowly choking many websites and content creators, forcing them into moves like this. As has been said, a tiny minority of people will watch a YT 'pre' video advert if it's skippable. If someone skips past after five seconds the channel gets NOTHING. Sites can tell when adblockers are used and if they are the site also gets NOTHING. Perhaps if everyone sat through the preshow advert on all the drive content they wouldn't be in this position?

kenno78

321 posts

154 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Trtj said:
Chris

It's a shame some of the budget was spunked on the other guys in the Drive network. Their videos are not why people subscribed to the channel. You'd be better off going solo with a subscription to your's and Neil's efforts. The other videos by your colleagues for me are just fillers and the journalism isn't worth it.
This.

If it was just Monkey doing a video each week I'd happily stump up for the subscription. Can't stand the other stuff on Drive.

andyp79

385 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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kenno78 said:
This.

If it was just Monkey doing a video each week I'd happily stump up for the subscription. Can't stand the other stuff on Drive.
Why not stump up and just watch the Chris Harris stuff then?


Ved

3,825 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It's a shame the sponsorship route didn't work out.

1.2 million subscribers and you'd think tyre, oil, petrol companies would be lining up. Can't see why they didn't when they do it for the majority of other shows that are funded that way. That way the advert is directly in the product and not skippable.

Stage1V8

2 posts

130 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Rindergulasch said:
Just tried to subscribe to DRIVE+ ... Youtube says it's not available in my country (Germany). Don't you want my money, Chris?
Apparently GEMA is to blame for this.

RobertK81

7 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Stage1V8 said:
Apparently GEMA is to blame for this.
In this extremely rare case, GEMA is actually not to blame.
Google "Rundfunklizenz" if you want to know more.
It's a stupid law of days long gone by. Though, to be fair, if Google wanted to, they could solve that as well. Yes, it's stupid that content providers on YT have to get such a license, but it's not exactly impossible. Only a hassle really. Which Google doesn't seem to think worth it.

Regards,

Robert

dinkel

26,886 posts

257 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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skidskid said:
If it works for DRIVE, everyone will charge $25 a year. I agree $25 a year isnt much, but as someone already pointed out 25+25+25........ is a huge amount. An iTunes format would be better so you can dip in an out of various channels as you see fit.
It should work like that! Maybe make a DRIVE.app similar to Itunes and expose the vids with a PPV: 1 USD to watch a clip 10x, including a share option. Which only works if you had not viewed it 10x already.

Or is this a silly thought?

dinkel

26,886 posts

257 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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In 1994 - 20 years ago!!! - I did a PPV TV pilot.

Market wasn't ready then, but I thought it was a really great idea.

Internet will be soooo different from what it is now. Look back and check 2004 ...

trashbat

6,005 posts

152 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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dinkel said:

Internet will be soooo different from what it is now. Look back and check 2004 ...
Well, Pistonheads is still the same.

eliotrw

302 posts

168 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Really enjoyed the LaFerrari vid(s) just uploaded. Both really great, i've had a lot for my 24 english pounds already...

stats007

531 posts

234 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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trashbat said:
ell, Pistonheads is still the same.
Apart from the bombardment of advertising...

Mavican

135 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Considering some of the bashing Chris gets for his garage and stuff like that, he's an independent journalist and doesn't just work for one publication, so he can do what he likes. But he can't just let his other outlets and contracts pay for his work on /Drive, it has to pay for itself, unless it was Chris on his own putting stuff up.

I was like a lot of others sceptical of Drivers Republic, I remember David Vivian's assassination of the concept in EVO when the guys left to go do it. I would still rather have a magazine to read, than read it on an IPAD/Google Tablet. But the video parts were still good enough.

I watch Mike Musto, Matt Farah, Mike Spinelli and yes Leo Parente. They have the familiarity from other shows so they know what they're doing. Leo works better when he's interviewing off the cuff, and there's been comments about that before. Shame he's been left out in the cold though after the amount of times he's worked with JF and co.

Anyway, I don't pay for Sky Sports, BT Sports or the Movie channels, so I might as well put the 2.50 a month to something I want to see. Still got Motors TV and Eurosport for Endurance racing, and thats all that matters! Everyone is different, and will have different preferences to what they will watch and how they watch it.

I'm in. But i don't want 3 month wait's between content again, unless there's some communication about it first.

p78

1 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Long time reader but not an active member, so fitting for a first post. I will more than gladly pay the annual fee for the channel, Chris's videos are well worth it. I even enjoy most of Matt's stuff, but Mike in my opinion isn't a great host. Even so, if I get one full length video a month from Chris, it's 3 pounds well spent (or, 29 danish kroner in my case).

Good content isn't cheap, so I fully support this initiative. Especially given the tiny amount of money they want for films of such high quality. The F40-F50 video alone is worth the annual outlay in my opinion as a thank you.

kor0

31 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I'm pretty sure it's a massive YouTube bug but I just watched the LaFerrari video in Romania, on a standard ISP, with no VPNs or stuff. And of course without any subscription.
Only works on my TV though, not on the laptop.

If Chris or any of the /Drive guys want to get in touch to explain how this is happening I'll be happy to help.

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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kor0 said:
I'm pretty sure it's a massive YouTube bug but I just watched the LaFerrari video in Romania, on a standard ISP, with no VPNs or stuff. And of course without any subscription.
Only works on my TV though, not on the laptop.

If Chris or any of the /Drive guys want to get in touch to explain how this is happening I'll be happy to help.
Maybe you watched the free version... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33H91Ipyy4

jfmusial

9 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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kor0 said:
I'm pretty sure it's a massive YouTube bug but I just watched the LaFerrari video in Romania, on a standard ISP, with no VPNs or stuff. And of course without any subscription.
Only works on my TV though, not on the laptop.

If Chris or any of the /Drive guys want to get in touch to explain how this is happening I'll be happy to help.
Would love to know. email me, jf@tangentvector.com

kor0

31 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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EricE said:
Maybe you watched the free version... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33H91Ipyy4
I'm pretty sure it was the full 15 minutes, on Drive+, not the standard channel. smile
Has to do with connecting your laptop to the YouTube smart tv app...

Edited by kor0 on Thursday 31st July 19:44

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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PW said:
Don't try and shift the blame.

No one would use adblock if it hadn't gotten to the point where sites are borderline unusable, and companies that think everyone one the internet is 5 years old and will only respond to flashing lights and loud noises.

Let's plaster the site with incredibly obnoxious and annoying adverts... Oh, people don't want to see obnoxious and annoying adverts? WHAT A SHOCK! How did we not foresee this turn of events?!
I would hazard that idiotic advertising is because they have idiotic viewers. Same as why they run lots of adverts about women soiling their pants, not being able to soil their pants or dumb celebs making them think that smearing lard on their rancid mugs will make them look tolerable on ITV2/3/4 etc. it's called targeting.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

210 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I do wonder about the subscription model for someone who has a watching habit such as mine.

I tend to think of videos such as the CH ones as disposable commodities - very much a use once and bin product. I don't tend to go back and watch something again car wise, no matter how appealing it is and I tend to skip through the sideways shots and concentrate on the thoughts/debates/discussions/ideas.

So, as a one time only use, that means there has to be a certain number of videos produced per year to satisfy my own price per unit internalised concept of VFM. To be honest, I struggle to put that at being 'worth' somewhere less than a pound (not sure exactly where less than a pound, but definitely less than a pound).

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Just out of interest, was PPV part of the original business model or has it slowly become apparent that advertising cannot fund the channel?