RE: Pay per view: PH Blog

[chrispmartha]

Ollywood said:

Good luck to DRIVE + they have been brave as well a open to discussion with their audience.

Brave? I'd say its essential, especially as its online content, they should be engaging with their customers (not audience) all the time.

Although judging by the comments above maybe they shouldn't ;-)

[skidskid]

If those comments are real that smoking tyre guy is a fking peen. The internet is full of people who either love you or hate you, and both will tell you in no uncertain terms. Its the internet, thats what happens. We all know that. The trick is to pick between the idiots, the kids on school holidays and the real comments from normal people.

I think saying that you cant afford $4 so you must be in the st is stupid. I can afford $4 all day long, so can everyone. But just because we have it free doesnt mean we want to spend it on Drive+. I think its to much for one YT subscription so I wont pay it, other think its worth it so do pay and would pay more. Thats life.

Being beaten by the internet is almost as sad as the people making stupid comments. Insulting people back and saying "i dont care" is tragic.

[Stu R]

Jason981S said:

I have been looking through the youtube comments on /Drive, but I am unable to find these alleged comments. Is it possible that something on the internet has been fabricated to suit an agenda?

I am willing to be corrected with the actual link.

He's given you the links. Hint, they're the ones with reddit.com in them.

As for the comments, I'm not here to stick up for anyone, but they were off the cuff responses in an AMA. What's he going to do, beg the guy not to download his stuff? If people are going to torrent your stuff, that's that.

[Munter]

skidskid said:

If those comments are real that smoking tyre guy is a fking peen.

I'm assuming it's this chap:

[chrispmartha]

Stu R said:

He's given you the links. Hint, they're the ones with reddit.com in them.

As for the comments, I'm not here to stick up for anyone, but they were off the cuff responses in an AMA. What's he going to do, beg the guy not to download his stuff? If people are going to torrent your stuff, that's that.

How about 'if you want to download the video from a torrent site, thats fine and theres nothing we can do about that'.

To be honest it was the other comments I found worse.

These people are their customers or potential customers.

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

Ollywood said:

Good luck to DRIVE + they have been brave as well a open to discussion with their audience.

Brave? I'd say its essential, especially as its online content, they should be engaging with their customers (not audience) all the time.

Although judging by the comments above maybe they shouldn't ;-)

http://www.reddit.com/user/TheSmokingTire

A summary of Mr Toys-Out-The-Pram's comments. I think he'd had a bad day or a drink problem or something.

[chrispmartha]

OpulentBob said:

http://www.reddit.com/user/TheSmokingTire

A summary of Mr Toys-Out-The-Pram's comments. I think he'd had a bad day or a drink problem or something.

My word.

Although Mr Harris is prone to a good old dummy spit himself isn't he.

[Mannginger]

Munter said:

I looked for them in my underpants and they were not there either.

However when I looked on reddit as per the links provided they were quite easy to see.

[Megaflow]

This is a bit odd, I just tried to watch the LaFerrari video again during lunch at work. The drive+ front page says I am subscribed and there is a link to subscription settings, but it won't load the subscription settings and but won't play anything.

At first I wondered if it might have been a proxy server issue, but then remembered our server is in the USA, so that shouldn't be it.

[SpeedBall]

Mr Farah's comments look like those of a guy who feels that DRIVE+ has accumulated enough subscribers to make the channel pay - so those who aren't willing to stump up the $$$ can take a running jump.

I wonder if he and his American friends realise that the British guy's videos are carrying the entire DRIVE brand.

[skidskid]

OpulentBob said:

http://www.reddit.com/user/TheSmokingTire

A summary of Mr Toys-Out-The-Pram's comments. I think he'd had a bad day or a drink problem or something.

Seems like it. I guess he needs to realise that most of the people giving him business advice are idiots and not take it so personally, and to not reply when annoyed.

This whole thing is way out of proportion. They need to do it to keep the lights on. Either pay or not, its that simple. Hopefully my reasons for not paying were constructive.

[Ollywood]

chrispmartha said:

Ollywood said:

Good luck to DRIVE + they have been brave as well a open to discussion with their audience.

Brave? I'd say its essential, especially as its online content, they should be engaging with their customers (not audience) all the time.

Although judging by the comments above maybe they shouldn't ;-)

Actually that's an interesting point - This is what has changed they have now customers as before it was really more of an audience. Time to open a PR and customer service department.

[chrispmartha]

Ollywood said:

Actually that's an interesting point - This is what has changed they have now customers as before it was really more of an audience.

Exactly

I suspect it will be a bit of a learning curve for them, I presuming people can easily unsubscribe? if so its not just about getting customers but also retaining them.

[chrispmartha]

Ollywood said:

Actually that's an interesting point - This is what has changed they have now customers as before it was really more of an audience.

Exactly

I suspect it will be a bit of a learning curve for them, I presuming people can easily unsubscribe? if so its not just about getting customers but also retaining them.

[Craikeybaby]

5678 said:

Craikeybaby said:

Subscribed. But I'm a bit disappointed that I can't access the Drive+ channel on my Apple TV. I don't mind paying for quality content, but it feels like the delivery method isn't ready yet.

Can you clarify, even if you subscribe, you can't view it on Apple TV?

The Apple TV app doesn't seem to support Drive+, I could see that I'd subscribed to a new channel, but the name was a long string of random characters and I could only see the intorduction video, not the two La Ferrari videos which had already been uploaded to YouTube.

TomSpecs said:

Craikeybaby said:

Subscribed. But I'm a bit disappointed that I can't access the Drive+ channel on my Apple TV. I don't mind paying for quality content, but it feels like the delivery method isn't ready yet.

You can airplay it via the YT iOS app.

The ATV YouTube app is written and managed by Apple -in the same way that the old iOS youtube app was, so it rarely gets updates. Bit of a pain, but hopefully it will be resolved soon. Anyway as mentioned for now the work around is to Airplay.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3005048?...

I've done that and it works, but it is a bit clunky. As I said earlier in the thread, the YouTube VSOD seems like a beta product. I'm fine paying for the content, but when the delivery method makes it harder to use than the free version it is a poor situation.

[tim milne]

chrispmartha said:

Ollywood said:

Actually that's an interesting point - This is what has changed they have now customers as before it was really more of an audience.

Exactly

I suspect it will be a bit of a learning curve for them, I presuming people can easily unsubscribe? if so its not just about getting customers but also retaining them.

Once you charge for something, you expect more and expect there to be improvements as time goes by. Unless the improvements (which will cost money) develop at a faster rate than subscribers' expectations, the subscriber-base won't grow and could possibly shrink. So, you end up down a blind alley of increasing costs and dwindling subscriptions.

I think the hardest challenge will be how to create perceptions of distinctive and growing value against free competition.

[chrispmartha]

tim milne said:

Once you charge for something, you expect more and expect there to be improvements as time goes by. Unless the improvements (which will cost money) develop at a faster rate than subscribers' expectations, the subscriber-base won't grow and could possibly shrink. So, you end up down a blind alley of increasing costs and dwindling subscriptions.

I think the hardest challenge will be how to create perceptions of distinctive and growing value against free competition.

Are they promising anything else above what they already had going out for free?

I've not looked as I have no intention of subscribing.

[tim milne]

chrispmartha said:

tim milne said:

Once you charge for something, you expect more and expect there to be improvements as time goes by. Unless the improvements (which will cost money) develop at a faster rate than subscribers' expectations, the subscriber-base won't grow and could possibly shrink. So, you end up down a blind alley of increasing costs and dwindling subscriptions.

I think the hardest challenge will be how to create perceptions of distinctive and growing value against free competition.

Are they promising anything else above what they already had going out for free?

I've not looked as I have no intention of subscribing.

They're reducing the length of the films on the free service and lengthening the films on the paid-for service. I guess it depends on whether Longer is Better

[chrispmartha]

tim milne said:

They're reducing the length of the films on the free service and lengthening the films on the paid-for service. I guess it depends on whether Longer is Better

So the drifting shots will now be in super 'slow mo' then ;-)

[Ollywood]

tim milne said:

chrispmartha said:

tim milne said:

Once you charge for something, you expect more and expect there to be improvements as time goes by. Unless the improvements (which will cost money) develop at a faster rate than subscribers' expectations, the subscriber-base won't grow and could possibly shrink. So, you end up down a blind alley of increasing costs and dwindling subscriptions.

I think the hardest challenge will be how to create perceptions of distinctive and growing value against free competition.

Are they promising anything else above what they already had going out for free?

I've not looked as I have no intention of subscribing.

They're reducing the length of the films on the free service and lengthening the films on the paid-for service. I guess it depends on whether Longer is Better

I did have a look at the free LaFerrari "review" its more of a long trailer. Also interesting that PH haven't published a accompanying blog about the LaFerrari review as they did before.