RE: Mercedes S-Class Coupe prices confirmed

RE: Mercedes S-Class Coupe prices confirmed

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irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Agreed, once depreciation takes hold these will be a good buy.

Takes a special kind of bank account to be able to pay for this with no thought to residual value. I would like to think if I made it to this level I'd see £150k as a buy to let house rather than a car that with be worthless in 7 years, but I guess I can't really say that until I ever got to that place!

MaserBob

31 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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hankering for a C140 as a daily driver - difficult to find a good one though.

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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MaserBob said:
hankering for a C140 as a daily driver - difficult to find a good one though.
This chap has the best reputation in the classic merc business, click on the coming soon section and there is a c140.

http://www.mtsv.co.uk/Showroom.htm

MaserBob

31 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Thanks for that - appreciate it!

Cheib

23,260 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Last time I was this shocked at the price of a car was when Audi's V12 Q7 diesel was launched at £100k (did they ever sell any?!?!)

rcs5158

32 posts

228 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It is all fairly subjective, anyone who has this sort of dough to blow on a car will buy whatever they want, I worked for someone who had a S65 (old shape) why?, because he could and it was £185k list, we then part ex it for a new RR Autobiography .......why, cos he could!, to go with the Phantom and Escalade. The residuals will be dire however be mindful that tyres are £150 plus a corner and brakes(discs and pads) are £300 plus a corner.......happy days!

speedjockey

131 posts

136 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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No real benefit to the '65 when an ECU tune on the '63 will get you up to that power range anyways for much, much less. The '65 is really only for telling your fellow '63 owner you have the bigger schwanz but then again, that's all these cars were really made for in the first place! biglaugh I guess you would have a large one too, having to muster the courage to actually pull the trigger full well knowing of the imminent £200k+ depreciation that would occur within 5 or 6 years!boxedin

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Prawnboy said:
the thing is, many who by this car wont be making the choice between this a bently or an FF. They would just buy them all.
and if the FF harris ran for 6 months is an indicator i bet the merc wont leave you on the side of the road twice.
Ha, another person that thinks premium German cars will buy you reliability. I wouldn't bet on S class reliability if I were you......

Mercedes has had quite a few problems with electronics and autoboxes in the past decade.


E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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speedjockey said:
No real benefit to the '65 when an ECU tune on the '63 will get you up to that power range anyways for much, much less. The '65 is really only for telling your fellow '63 owner you have the bigger schwanz but then again, that's all these cars were really made for in the first place! biglaugh I guess you would have a large one too, having to muster the courage to actually pull the trigger full well knowing of the imminent £200k+ depreciation that would occur within 5 or 6 years!boxedin
You miss the point of a V12. Instead of a V8 would you be happy with a highly strung 4 pot turbo?

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C?

FrankUnderwood

6,631 posts

214 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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philmots said:
Wow.. The 65 is a right chunk more than the 63.

Some people will just buy the 65 regardless (more money than sense) but I can't help but think it needs more power to justify it's premium. Like 680-700hp.
I don't understand the more money than sense bit confused

It's a man thing to have the full cojones. The V12 will be smoother than the V8 and you don't have to use the power, it's just fun knowing you have it. A V12 Mercedes Coupe is nearly as good as you're going to get with big cars and I imagine it's great just owning and appreciating it, in the same way that you might appreciate and love a Brightling watch.

To me the CL reminds me of an original Faberge egg. An amazing piece of art, majesticness and history.


Edited by FrankUnderwood on Thursday 31st July 13:02

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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FrankUnderwood said:
I don't understand the more money than sense bit confused

It's a man thing to have the full cojones. The V12 will be smoother than the V8 and you don't have to use the power, it's just fun knowing you have it. A V12 Mercedes Coupe is nearly as good as you're going to get with big cars and I imagine it's great just owning and appreciating it, in the same way that you might appreciate and love a Brightling watch

To me the CL reminds me of an original Faberge egg. An amazing piece of art, majesticness and history.


Edited by FrankUnderwood on Thursday 31st July 13:02
A what watch? hehe

RedRob67

27 posts

122 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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The extra price includes not just the switch from V8 to V12, but a whole raft of extra kit including a fantastic Burmester 3D stereo system, Splitview, and head-up display. I wouldn't get too stressed over it, anyway - it's the figurehead of the whole M-B car range, and total UK volume will probably not even reach double figures. Just settle for the S63... biggrin

FrankUnderwood

6,631 posts

214 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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RedRob67 said:
The extra price includes not just the switch from V8 to V12, but a whole raft of extra kit including a fantastic Burmester 3D stereo system, Splitview, and head-up display. I wouldn't get too stressed over it, anyway - it's the figurehead of the whole M-B car range, and total UK volume will probably not even reach double figures. Just settle for the S63... biggrin
The sort of people who buy these cars don't 'settle' for anything wink

sc0tt

18,050 posts

201 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Question? Is PH allowed to stamp their watermark on these pics when they aren't PH pics?

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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philmots said:
Wow.. The 65 is a right chunk more than the 63.

Some people will just buy the 65 regardless (more money than sense) but I can't help but think it needs more power to justify it's premium. Like 680-700hp.
I can never understand this notion that somehow if you are in the position to spend an obscene amount of money on something that you must be in some way be a bit stupid. If the prerequisite for earning massive amounts of money was to be unintelligent, lazy, have no drive or self respect then every council house in England would have a Bentley or a Ferrari parked outside it. (No offence to any hard working, intelligent people who live in council houses!) It really is a lazy comment which always gets rolled out every time an expensive car is talked about. I think the one thing that might help this version of the coupe over previous ones is the fact that this really is a good looking car regardless of the badge on the front. It's suddenly become a proper object of desire and for some that will justify the price on it's own

smithyithy

7,257 posts

118 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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E65Ross said:
BigBen said:
E65Ross said:
smithyithy said:
So what's the difference between the S63 AMG and S65 AMG coupes and the CL63 AMG and the CL65 AMG? Priced £118,885 and £164,940 respecively.
The engine being one. The V12 in the '65 also comes as standard with upgraded quilted leather a few other bits and bobs. The V12 is also geared a little more towards smoothness than the V8 in the '63 as well.
Isn't it that the CLs are the outgoing models and the S coupes are the new ?
Yes, I thought he was asking about the difference between the 63 and 65 models. Thought everyone knew (after a few articles on it!) that the S class coupe was replacing the CL.
Yes, sorry should have been more clear, I did mean difference between the CL's and the S's.

Didn't realise the S was just replacing the CL, I've never been overly interested in Mercs save for the Black Edition AMG thing that was quite cool.

The depreciation is manic though, even for a car of this type! I was just the other day looks at the prices of used E-Class AMG Saloons - so much car for the money!

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C?
Yes just as staggering.

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Davey S2 said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C?
Yes just as staggering.
Why? In most cases a well set-up steel system will be MORE than up to the job of what the car will do; as well as generally offering better feel through the pedal and being more consistent through general daily driving temperatures.