Car dealer failed to declare car previously Cat D
Discussion
steveball said:
I can read quite well, thank you...
My point was that we only have your side of the story. Post the advert text up, then you may have a claim for rejection. However compensation is just ridiculous!
No it's not. If the OP wants to keep the car but it's now worth less due to the Cat D history then some financial recompense would seem to be perfectly justified. Obviously the dealers aren't obliged to do this, but they may decide it's a better option than taking the car back.My point was that we only have your side of the story. Post the advert text up, then you may have a claim for rejection. However compensation is just ridiculous!
Alfaowner2707 said:
POORCARDEALER said:
The legal situation is:
The dealer has to put in their ad if the vehicle is on the register and on the order forum/receipt.
The fact they didnt know is irrelevant
They risk prosecution.
Ask for your money back in full.
Ps. Sounds like car was too cheap, you now know why
Have you a link to any legislation or is it a regulatory body who traders subscribe to? I can't find anything online. The dealer has to put in their ad if the vehicle is on the register and on the order forum/receipt.
The fact they didnt know is irrelevant
They risk prosecution.
Ask for your money back in full.
Ps. Sounds like car was too cheap, you now know why
Edited by POORCARDEALER on Wednesday 30th July 18:39
Mr2Mike said:
No it's not. If the OP wants to keep the car but it's now worth less due to the Cat D history then some financial recompense would seem to be perfectly justified. Obviously the dealers aren't obliged to do this, but they may decide it's a better option than taking the car back.
Rough prices for a clean car are 10-13k, lets use 11k for arguments sake as an average...11k less 25% for the CAT D is 8250
From those figures, the car was priced accordingly! We still need a copy of the advert and the dealers side of events.
catman said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to get your money back and buy a car with no adverse history.
I'm sure that when you come to sell, you'll take a hit and if you have an accident, the pay out will probably be lower too, as it's already been written off.
Tim
I agree Tim, I can't get this car for my budget (certainly not a low mileage one) or I would have been straight back for my money back. I'm weighing up how risky if is for me to keep the car (with some compensation of course- shock, horror!)I'm sure that when you come to sell, you'll take a hit and if you have an accident, the pay out will probably be lower too, as it's already been written off.
Tim
Reselling is not a concern, I do 25k+ a year so the car will be worth more to me to keep and drive it into the ground
Did the dealer lie though? Saying if it was Cat C, it would be on the V5, isn't a lie. He just didn't answer the exact question you asked. Politicians answer though it is, he didn't actually lie.
Meantime, your getting your knicks all damp because you think you've found the bargain of the year as you ignore your inner voice shouting 'HPI this blooming thing'.
Now, reading back, it sounds like you dont want your money back, you want to keep the car because it fits your pocket, but you also want the dealer to flagellate himself in front of you by passing you a healthy wad of folding compensation. All beacause you did the car buying process ass backwards and let the greedy gland seal the deal on the day for you.
You and said dealer sound made for each other tbh.
Meantime, your getting your knicks all damp because you think you've found the bargain of the year as you ignore your inner voice shouting 'HPI this blooming thing'.
Now, reading back, it sounds like you dont want your money back, you want to keep the car because it fits your pocket, but you also want the dealer to flagellate himself in front of you by passing you a healthy wad of folding compensation. All beacause you did the car buying process ass backwards and let the greedy gland seal the deal on the day for you.
You and said dealer sound made for each other tbh.
Yawn, this incessant need to repeat myself is getting boring. I specifically asked him if the car had ever been written off. He said it hadn't and he is STILL saying he didn't even know which is obviously a lie.
He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
steveball said:
OP how can you want compensation?? You are the type of person that is currently ruining this country!! Due to your ignorance by not HPI checking a car, which was considerably cheaper than any equivalent, and possibly the dealer not declaring the CAT D - of which we only have your side of the story! you now deem it that you require some money to recover from your ordeal?
Bulls
t. What kind of trader fails to check their stock and then sells on the car without declaring that sort of history? They're supposed to be the 'professionals' in this transaction. They have to carry out the relevant checks and make the customer aware of whatever they find.http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/consumer_w/con...
Edited by Janesy B on Wednesday 30th July 20:06
Really this seems to come down to you making every effort to find out the level of damage the car took to make at a CAT car. THEN the quality of repair.
Then if the outcome is acceptable to you/an engineer then at the right price you seem to want the car.
If the car took what you consider too much damage, you will walk away with money back, correct?
So it all revolves around you finding out the level of damage, unfortunately the RAC type inspection will probably not be the correct approach to assess damage and repair.
You need to try and get to the previous owner and ask the questions. Or an in-depth assessment.
Loss of money on trade-in isn't the only issue for you the driver.
Then if the outcome is acceptable to you/an engineer then at the right price you seem to want the car.
If the car took what you consider too much damage, you will walk away with money back, correct?
So it all revolves around you finding out the level of damage, unfortunately the RAC type inspection will probably not be the correct approach to assess damage and repair.
You need to try and get to the previous owner and ask the questions. Or an in-depth assessment.
Loss of money on trade-in isn't the only issue for you the driver.
Alfaowner2707 said:
Yawn, this incessant need to repeat myself is getting boring. I specifically asked him if the car had ever been written off. He said it hadn't and he is STILL saying he didn't even know which is obviously a lie.
He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
Try not to go down the legal route, will take months He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
Alfaowner2707 said:
Agreed, I don't know of it makes any difference but it was 13 months old when it was written off.
If a part was on back order, the rental costs for a loan car could push the costs too high so they decided to write it off instead. I seem to remember a Lotus Evora was written off when it had very minor damage as the rear bumper was on back order. The costs for a like for like car were so high that the insurance company decided to cut thier losses on it. So your car might not have had that much damageOP - seems like you want your cake and eat it.
You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
rongagin said:
Really this seems to come down to you making every effort to find out the level of damage the car took to make at a CAT car. THEN the quality of repair.
Then if the outcome is acceptable to you/an engineer then at the right price you seem to want the car.
If the car took what you consider too much damage, you will walk away with money back, correct?
So it all revolves around you finding out the level of damage, unfortunately the RAC type inspection will probably not be the correct approach to assess damage and repair.
You need to try and get to the previous owner and ask the questions. Or an in-depth assessment.
Loss of money on trade-in isn't the only issue for you the driver.
Correct. I can get an almost identical car (6 months older) for 10k so I don't want to pay more than 7,500 for this car...presuming it's okThen if the outcome is acceptable to you/an engineer then at the right price you seem to want the car.
If the car took what you consider too much damage, you will walk away with money back, correct?
So it all revolves around you finding out the level of damage, unfortunately the RAC type inspection will probably not be the correct approach to assess damage and repair.
You need to try and get to the previous owner and ask the questions. Or an in-depth assessment.
Loss of money on trade-in isn't the only issue for you the driver.
POORCARDEALER said:
Alfaowner2707 said:
Yawn, this incessant need to repeat myself is getting boring. I specifically asked him if the car had ever been written off. He said it hadn't and he is STILL saying he didn't even know which is obviously a lie.
He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
Try not to go down the legal route, will take months He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.
Fast Bug said:
Alfaowner2707 said:
Agreed, I don't know of it makes any difference but it was 13 months old when it was written off.
If a part was on back order, the rental costs for a loan car could push the costs too high so they decided to write it off instead. I seem to remember a Lotus Evora was written off when it had very minor damage as the rear bumper was on back order. The costs for a like for like car were so high that the insurance company decided to cut thier losses on it. So your car might not have had that much damagelord trumpton said:
OP - seems like you want your cake and eat it.
You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
I am out of pocket and I'm clearly not happy, have you read any of the thread? You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
I value honesty and integrity so I'm not going to take advice from anyone who thinks it's ok to lie (that's you im talking about since you seem to have difficulty processing information).
Edited by Alfaowner2707 on Wednesday 30th July 20:40
Alfaowner2707 said:
lord trumpton said:
OP - seems like you want your cake and eat it.
You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
I am out of pocket and I'm clearly not happy, have you read any of the thread? You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it
It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.
It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?
Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.
You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth
I value honesty and integrity so I'm not going to take advice from anyone who thinks it's ok to lie (that's you in talking about since you seem to have difficulty processing information).
If you are so smart then perhaps you should have checked the car out first to save all this whinging.
Alfa Romeo are crap anyway
Alfaowner2707 said:
Correct. I can get an almost identical car (6 months older) for 10k so I don't want to pay more than 7,500 for this car...presuming it's ok
So you want nigh on 15% of the price back as some form of compensation?!?Genuine
Seriously, I'd say this highlights the joys of dealing with the public alright. Not often I feel sorry for a dealer, but with this one, they are starting to have my sympathies.
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