Car dealer failed to declare car previously Cat D
Discussion
lord trumpton said:
Yeah yeah.
If you are so smart then perhaps you should have checked the car out first to save all this whinging.
Alfa Romeo are crap anyway
I am confident I can reach a satisfactory resolution of my current predicament. If you are so smart then perhaps you should have checked the car out first to save all this whinging.
Alfa Romeo are crap anyway
Unfortunately for you, you will always be stupid!
Chainguy said:
Alfaowner2707 said:
Correct. I can get an almost identical car (6 months older) for 10k so I don't want to pay more than 7,500 for this car...presuming it's ok
So you want nigh on 15% of the price back as some form of compensation?!?Genuine
Seriously, I'd say this highlights the joys of dealing with the public alright. Not often I feel sorry for a dealer, but with this one, they are starting to have my sympathies.
Janesy B said:
You've already stated a 6 month older car is £1000 so you've got 25% off as it stands. Have you found any other Cat D cars and judged the decrease in value?
Nope, i got 12% off. Standard is 25% according to my mechanic and alfa service centre (and the general consensus on the internet).
Alfaowner2707 said:
I paid under market value for a NON Cat D car! I paid too much for a Cat D car
Undoubtedly you are in sales. Hence you will be familiar with two key concepts.1. Deals are final. Not retrospective.
2. Buyers remorse fuelled by eagerness to close a deal, then subsequently finding out you didn't actually get one over on the salesman.
If you had actually did your due diligence before signing the line, you would have everyones sympathies, but you never, hence you have had a learning experience. And unfortunately, education isn't free.
Compound that with joining, looking for advice, and then insulting those who give it in the manner this site is known for (robustly) and as I said, my sympathies are with the other guy on this one.
Alfaowner2707 said:
Janesy B said:
You've already stated a 6 month older car is £1000 so you've got 25% off as it stands. Have you found any other Cat D cars and judged the decrease in value?
Nope, i got 12% off. Standard is 25% according to my mechanic and alfa service centre (and the general consensus on the internet).
Mr2Mike said:
Being previously written off is just "minor administrative paperwork"? Are you a car dealer by any chance?
CatD? Yes, it is. Are you a car dealer by any chance?It means that the car had damage that was less than the pre-accident value, but the insurer _chose_ not to repair it anyway. That can be for a myriad of reasons. Perhaps it was parts delays. Perhaps it was to minimise hire-car costs. Perhaps it was just that the person was on the phone screaming at them and they wanted shot.
But one thing's for sure - if that decision had tipped the other way, as it so easily could have done, that exact same damage would have been repaired by the insurer and there would be no flag, and a future buyer would be NONE the wiser. A CatD flag is a minor administrative decision. No more, no less.
Chainguy said:
Undoubtedly you are in sales. Hence you will be familiar with two key concepts.
1. Deals are final. Not retrospective.
2. Buyers remorse fuelled by eagerness to close a deal, then subsequently finding out you didn't actually get one over on the salesman.
If you had actually did your due diligence before signing the line, you would have everyones sympathies, but you never, hence you have had a learning experience. And unfortunately, education isn't free.
Compound that with joining, looking for advice, and then insulting those who give it in the manner this site is known for (robustly) and as I said, my sympathies are with the other guy on this one.
Are you for real? Deals are final but a professional has a responsibility to abide by the regulations set by trading standards.1. Deals are final. Not retrospective.
2. Buyers remorse fuelled by eagerness to close a deal, then subsequently finding out you didn't actually get one over on the salesman.
If you had actually did your due diligence before signing the line, you would have everyones sympathies, but you never, hence you have had a learning experience. And unfortunately, education isn't free.
Compound that with joining, looking for advice, and then insulting those who give it in the manner this site is known for (robustly) and as I said, my sympathies are with the other guy on this one.
Its NOT compulsory for an individual to do an HPI check.
The OP is completely justified in her investigations and seeking whatever she feels is justified regarding a misinformed sale.
You made it clear you don't agree with her. She's not looking for sympathy.
Alfaowner2707 said:
Let's stick with the facts.
Always a good plan.Alfaowner2707 said:
I did not get what I paid for. I was happy with the price I paid for a car that had not been written off.
Yes, you were. Because you thought you'd got a real bargain, a price that was never-to-be-repeated, thousands below the market rate for that car. Right?Alfaowner2707 said:
The car needs to be checked because it's been involved in an accident and I've no idea what damage it incurred or who repaired it. Additionally I do not know how this will affect the warranty .
Woah up here. If somebody in the insurer had made a slightly different decision with the paperwork, you'd have paid several grand more for it and never been any the wiser about it having been bent - let alone known what the damage was or who repaired it.Alfaowner2707 said:
Compensation for the stress, inconvenience
Quantify it, with paperwork to support. That's how much you might be owed. No more.Alfaowner2707 said:
and for the fact that I would not have paid this for a Cat D.
Yet, strangely, you appear to have paid the going rate for one.So, basically, this is "he said, she said"? Or do you have the dealer in writing saying it wasn't?
I agree with the OP in many areas.
The dealer seems to have been less than truthful. Not a good basis to do business for me at least.
The car is cheaper but not the much quoted 25% less, although again I would not pay -25% of normal value for a CAT D, personal opinion of course. Although as I said earlier much depends on what the damage was, still an unknown yet people seem to be happy accept whatever....
I think if the OP wants the car for £7500, then that is a fair price.
The OP, if I am correct, originally asked if taking on a CAT D car was a good idea...
My answer is no, because I wouldn't want the hassle when it does come to move it on, OP plans change, you may need/want to move it earlier.
The dealer seems to have been less than truthful. Not a good basis to do business for me at least.
The car is cheaper but not the much quoted 25% less, although again I would not pay -25% of normal value for a CAT D, personal opinion of course. Although as I said earlier much depends on what the damage was, still an unknown yet people seem to be happy accept whatever....
I think if the OP wants the car for £7500, then that is a fair price.
The OP, if I am correct, originally asked if taking on a CAT D car was a good idea...
My answer is no, because I wouldn't want the hassle when it does come to move it on, OP plans change, you may need/want to move it earlier.
TooMany2cvs said:
Yet, strangely, you appear to have paid the going rate for one.
So, basically, this is "he said, she said"? Or do you have the dealer in writing saying it wasn't?
She didn't, she paid too much for a cat D. So, basically, this is "he said, she said"? Or do you have the dealer in writing saying it wasn't?
Would she have bought it if she was informed it was a cat D?
If so, would she have paid the sticker price?
If you accidentally bought a cat D car, which was written off at such a young age, surely you'd want to know what sort of damage the car had received.
Thanks all. I have spoken to my solicitor friend and made a decision. Pending a satisfactory inspection I am going to email the dealer and offer him the option of refunding me the balance between what I paid and the market value of Cat D car, plus the cost of the inspection. If he declines I will ask for a refund and compensation of my costs incurred to date .
He is in breach of several laws and although I really want a speedy resolution, i will go down that route if necessary.
I have deleted the OP on the advice of my solicitor friend but will come back and update when it is resolved.
He is in breach of several laws and although I really want a speedy resolution, i will go down that route if necessary.
I have deleted the OP on the advice of my solicitor friend but will come back and update when it is resolved.
Edited by Alfaowner2707 on Wednesday 30th July 21:51
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