Mod 1 fail ... again absolutely gutted. .

Mod 1 fail ... again absolutely gutted. .

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bkbk

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1 posts

117 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Took my mod 1 again yesterday and failed again
First time I failed as I touched the cone I was swerving around with my toe, other than that the examiner said it was perfect! Yesterday failed as I dabbed my foot down on the u turn, it seems so unfair as again I did everything perfectly! Feel very disheartened and so disappointed. Can't get in again for ages and my theory test runs out in September, my instructor said I will pass mod 2 no problem but need to nail mod 1 first. Gutted gutted gutted! Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Oh boy.

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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You could take your Mod 1 at another centre?

PHmember

2,487 posts

171 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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What would've happened if the cone you touched with your toe had been an immovable concrete bollard?

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Given the risks of biking, if your bike control doesn't reach beyond not hitting cones and doing a proper U turn you're not really ready to ride solo on the public road, even if you can pass the mod 2. The low speed control tested in the mod 1 is important stuff.

I struggled with confidence on the U turns, I would feel like the bike was going to fall over half way round, but with some patience I got there in the end. Keep at it, you'll get it right eventually.

Lordbenny

8,582 posts

219 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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What's a mod 1?

Mercury00

4,101 posts

156 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Lordbenny said:
What's a mod 1?
Bikes.

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Takes practice - I struggled with the U turn too, as someone has said it feels like the bike is going to fall over. On the day as I turned I got the same feeling 'it's going over'. I thought, if I put my foot down I've failed, so I might as well take a risk. I squeezed the throttle a smidge which obviously increased my speed and stabilised the bike but widened my turn. I missed the second kerb by a millionth of a millimetre. My examiner described it as a 'just' smile

HD Adam

5,147 posts

184 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bkbk said:
Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks
I'm afraid it's you.

It's all about low speed control on the Mod 1 and you must reach the required level. Practice Practice Practice.

Can you get in anywhere else for the Mod 1 test? Might be worth the hassle traveling somewhere over redoing the Theory test again.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

198 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Rear brake and throttle for low speed control. With practice it's a piece of piss.

strudel

5,888 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Life's unfair. Accept it.

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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U-turns: find a 125cc bike and a carpark and go around and around in circles until you can hold the bars at the steering stop and keep going around in circles indefinitely.

I agree with the advice above on fixed throttle position and controlling the speed with the clutch and rear brake.

You should get the high speed work on Mod 1 right. One day you may need to use it.

Finally consider a different instructor. There is probably nothing wrong at all with your instructor but sometimes two people dont gel and you can have more success with someone different.

thatdude

2,655 posts

127 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Leave it for now, and with your CBT entitlement get a 125 and go put on some miles and build some confidence, Practise slow manouvers and such in the meantime aswell, and in a couple of months have another crack at the test.

Don't dispare

trickywoo

11,754 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I wouldn't agree with the 125 advice.

A 'big' bike feels a lot different at low speeds.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bkbk said:
Took my mod 1 again yesterday and failed again
Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks
It's you.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bkbk said:
Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks
It's you. If everyone failed them it'd be the system, but most pass.

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Mastodon2 said:
Given the risks of biking, if your bike control doesn't reach beyond not hitting cones and doing a proper U turn you're not really ready to ride solo on the public road, even if you can pass the mod 2. The low speed control tested in the mod 1 is important stuff.

I struggled with confidence on the U turns, I would feel like the bike was going to fall over half way round, but with some patience I got there in the end. Keep at it, you'll get it right eventually.
You obviously have never ridden a Triumph triple. The turning circle is ridiculous, until I broke my steering lock life was full of constant 3 point turns instead of U-turns.

I nailed the U-turn both times, the space was huge, however I dabbed my foot down on the figure of 8 and failed the first time.

To be honest its not a hard test to pass, however when you are learning it bloody can be, especially for me.

I was 45 miles away from the nearest test station, it was booked up months in advance.

I was doing lessons every second Saturday morning so when it came to do my test it was almost 2 weeks since I rode a bike.

I had to hire a van - £40
Fuel - £30
Day off work
Hire the bike for two hours - £54
Test - £15
Practice for the test - £54

Cost - £194 for a fail. I was a bag of nerves for that reason, I couldn’t afford to sit it again, sure enough I failed.

If I had failed a second time I would have gave up biking. Some will say its needed, personally I think that it’s a face, £300-400 would have been better spent on advanced training.


2seas

3,678 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bkbk said:
Took my mod 1 again yesterday and failed again
First time I failed as I touched the cone I was swerving around with my toe, other than that the examiner said it was perfect! Yesterday failed as I dabbed my foot down on the u turn, it seems so unfair as again I did everything perfectly! Feel very disheartened and so disappointed. Can't get in again for ages and my theory test runs out in September, my instructor said I will pass mod 2 no problem but need to nail mod 1 first. Gutted gutted gutted! Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks
Passing your bike test doesn't make you a good biker and failing it doesn't mean you will be a bad biker or you're not cut out for it. A friend of mine failed her Mod 1 twice and finally passed on the third attempt. Knowing her, I believe she will go on to be an excellent and safe biker. Plenty of people have passed with flying colors then gone on to ride like nobheads.

Yes, some of the things you can fail on seem petty and a bit ridiculous, (FYI in 30,000+ bike miles so far I've never done a turn in the road without putting my feet down) but try not to get hung up on that as it's not productive.

The best thing you can do is re-book and try not to get too down about it. You'll pass eventually, best of luck!

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bkbk said:
Took my mod 1 again yesterday and failed again
First time I failed as I touched the cone I was swerving around with my toe, other than that the examiner said it was perfect! Yesterday failed as I dabbed my foot down on the u turn, it seems so unfair as again I did everything perfectly! Feel very disheartened and so disappointed. Can't get in again for ages and my theory test runs out in September, my instructor said I will pass mod 2 no problem but need to nail mod 1 first. Gutted gutted gutted! Is it me or is this system stupid and unfair?? Becks
Most people have already jumped on the opportunity to be bad cop, so I guess I'll have to be nice. I think the Module 1 test is best summed up as easy to pass, easy to fail. It can, and does, catch out good riders as well as bad.

That said, the fact you clipped a cone, rather than ploughed into a fence, or binned it whilst braking, or crashed doing a swerve shows you can ride relatively safely. This is the primary purpose of the test before you're allowed on the ride with an examiner, however you must still reach the same required standard as most of us did. As mentioned the cone could have been something else.

Use the time. Get the cones out, get to a carpark. Practice. It's all well and being told you will pass your mod 2, but that doesn't mean bugger all until you do it, so get some time in there as well.

It'll be worth it in the end.






Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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LoonR1 said:
It's you. If everyone failed them it'd be the system, but most pass.
What if 50% pass?