RE: Future proof: PH Blog

RE: Future proof: PH Blog

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anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I'm going to be keeping a very close eye on BMW i3 prices over the next couple of years!

Dale487

1,334 posts

124 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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£6k Manual Porsche Cayman (any time would be great)
Manual 911 50th Anniversary - nice if they could be affordable by 2022
Audi S1 Sportback
Skoda yeti Monte Carlo (not even released yet but looked great in the motorshow pictures - Skoda please put some more powerful petrol engines it with a manual gearbox than the 105 1.2TSI)

Mr. Potato Head

1,150 posts

220 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Dan Trent said:
Ha! Funnily enough at a previous workplace there was a photographer who announced his arrival by doing exactly that.

Dan
If ever a post was worthless without pics then this is one.

5RedLights

155 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Current Fiesta ST is going to be very appealing used in a few years, especially when you think you can get the ST150 for £2k now after 9 years.

Type R Tom

3,888 posts

150 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I've always wondered if modern cars will be economically viable to run in 10 – 15 years’ time, bit like the £100k+ Merc v12’s you can pick up now quite reasonably.

With MOT’s probably getting stricter, will all the electronic gizmos keep working or be cheap enough to repair keep todays cars on the road

kambites

67,584 posts

222 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It's not out yet, but I think the Tesla Model-III will be a very interesting car for when the wife's Octavia needs replacing.

ghibbett

1,901 posts

186 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Someone's going to be getting a cracking C63 Estate when mine goes back next month frown

ecs0set

2,471 posts

285 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Type R Tom said:
I've always wondered if modern cars will be economically viable to run in 10 – 15 years’ time, bit like the £100k+ Merc v12’s you can pick up now quite reasonably.

With MOT’s probably getting stricter, will all the electronic gizmos keep working or be cheap enough to repair keep todays cars on the road
IMHO, post 2000 £100k+ Merc V12s are not economically viable to run at any time. I was really interested in a CL65 but realistically, there is too much potential bork even if you can look past the 2nd mortgage for petrol costs. I read somewhere recently that the later AMG models are not significantly better.

Sadly, I feel that active suspension, ultra-sophisticated gearboxes and turbo-charged engines covered in sensors spell the end of running older performance cars on a budget. It takes long enough for the main dealers to work out what's gone wrong during the warranty period, even with factory backing. I think the local specialist will need to up their game considerably if they are going to keep uber-modern machinery going.

PS. I'm not talking about sat navs or seats or other things you can ignore. I'm thinking of a lot of complicated stuff that needs to work properly for the thing to move under its own power.

bozzy101

506 posts

140 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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A Renault Sport Clio 200 when they are £2000 like their 172/182 predecessors.

TNH

559 posts

148 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Axionknight said:
The C63 is on mine, an estate would be my main choice. I fancy one early next year when my current lease is up but I doubt my boss lady would let me, lol frown
Just tell her its a C Class and pretend its a diesel wink

Dave G fsi

988 posts

131 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I will be buying a Mk3 Focus ST estate in the future for sure.... smile

SuperVM

1,098 posts

162 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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A C63 Estate with LSD is definitely on my list, as is a Nissan GTR and M135i.

Lil'RedGTO

671 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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ecs0set said:
Sadly, I feel that active suspension, ultra-sophisticated gearboxes and turbo-charged engines covered in sensors spell the end of running older performance cars on a budget.
I agree. Arguably even more mainstream stuff will also be a challenge, due to the amount of electronic stuff to go wrong. Most cars will simply be scrapped. Trying to run a 10 year old C63 in 2024 is likely to be nigh on impossible.

JsyM3

98 posts

138 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Lil'RedGTO said:
Trying to run a 10 year old C63 in 2024 is likely to be nigh on impossible.
You've just ruined my day frown

FivePotTurbo

25 posts

124 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Dan/anyone, can you fit a mountain bike in a Megane Trophy wìth the back seats down and front wheel off?

TristPerrin

135 posts

179 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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M235i or 228i

Much like my current 130i, after few years depreciation and these two should be very tempting!

I just hope that they don't have any of the turbo related issues that put me off the last gen 135i...

Lil'RedGTO

671 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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JsyM3 said:
Lil'RedGTO said:
Trying to run a 10 year old C63 in 2024 is likely to be nigh on impossible.
You've just ruined my day frown
Sorry! Maybe I was too harsh. Not impossible, but pricey, as you'll just have to replace entire electronic systems when things break. I just get annoyed that manufacturers have to load their cars up with so much electronic cr*p. Why can't someone make a basic, fast, fun and ultra-reliable car using proven technology, without all the unecessary toys? GT-86 was a step in the right direction, at least.

ajmcampbell

514 posts

137 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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F31 330d/335d Xdrive. Rapid, economical performance.
W221 S Class: luxurious and (seemingly) reliable so far.
Late XKR: falling in value pretty fast, looks like a lot of car for the money.
Last gen Maser QP: much prettier than its replacement, if flawed.

EricE

1,945 posts

130 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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4C is a guaranteed classic in my eyes.

Mixed reviews, good performance, quite unpractical car, limited sales because demand is not huge but even so they can’t keep up with production. I’m sure the ones with the ugly bug eye headlights will command a premium in the future just because they were "special". (I think the Spyder headlights look miles better!)

C63 estate with LSD is definitely on my list but I wish I had a magic crystal ball to see where the values are going. Seems to me that so far they hold their value better than similar AMG cars?

Krikkit

26,536 posts

182 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Lil'RedGTO said:
JsyM3 said:
Lil'RedGTO said:
Trying to run a 10 year old C63 in 2024 is likely to be nigh on impossible.
You've just ruined my day frown
Sorry! Maybe I was too harsh. Not impossible, but pricey, as you'll just have to replace entire electronic systems when things break. I just get annoyed that manufacturers have to load their cars up with so much electronic cr*p. Why can't someone make a basic, fast, fun and ultra-reliable car using proven technology, without all the unecessary toys? GT-86 was a step in the right direction, at least.
I think you have more of a chance with the C63 - NA V8 and torque converter auto... There's been plenty of those around for years, and esc/dsc systems are mostly quite mature by now.

It's something like the current M5 that would give me the heebie jeebies.