RE: David Brown Speedback GT: Review
Discussion
Qwert1e said:
vournikas said:
insideimsmiling said:
Yournikas,think.of.the.paintwork!
I am!120 hours on the paint job to get that liquid like shimmer, Pilkington do a heated windscreen for it and then they go and saddle the thing with such hideous, ill suited mirrors?
tfinger.Its always a shame when a company makes a product that everyone else can seeis not going to be a winner. The car needed to be gorgeous to work i.e. be desirable for the well healed but instead it just looks like a mash up. Hats off to DB for creating his own vision for automotive heaven - the quality of workmanship looks exquisite styling aside.
A DB5 manual is currently on sale for £350k, nearly half the price and a great investment at that.
Bottom line David Brown is utilising the fact that his name is the same as once owner of Aston Martin to build a car that looks like a DB5 and market it to the super rich.
Maybe I should change my name by deed-pol to Enzo Ferrari and start selling F40's based on MR2's for just shy of a million - twice the price of the real thing.
I to saw this at GFOS and it really is horrific.
The guy who was working for them approached me and smugly said so what do you think do you like it, I felt compelled to tell the truth and said "In a word...no" the wing mirrors are chunky and very "unclassic" for use of a better word. The rear lights look cheap, its big and bulky.
I then asked how much it cost, and chocked as he let slip the 600k mark, to which I replied you do know you can get a real DB5 for that with change.
"but this is better" he said. mechanically maybe, but my father had a DB6 Vantage and although not very driver friendly, the history, prestige and character of an Aston Martin is unsurpassed in classic cars.
Plus his DB6 tripled in value over the period of his ownership something this won't do.
Bottom line David Brown is utilising the fact that his name is the same as once owner of Aston Martin to build a car that looks like a DB5 and market it to the super rich.
Maybe I should change my name by deed-pol to Enzo Ferrari and start selling F40's based on MR2's for just shy of a million - twice the price of the real thing.
I to saw this at GFOS and it really is horrific.
The guy who was working for them approached me and smugly said so what do you think do you like it, I felt compelled to tell the truth and said "In a word...no" the wing mirrors are chunky and very "unclassic" for use of a better word. The rear lights look cheap, its big and bulky.
I then asked how much it cost, and chocked as he let slip the 600k mark, to which I replied you do know you can get a real DB5 for that with change.
"but this is better" he said. mechanically maybe, but my father had a DB6 Vantage and although not very driver friendly, the history, prestige and character of an Aston Martin is unsurpassed in classic cars.
Plus his DB6 tripled in value over the period of his ownership something this won't do.
Erm - I think Jaguar is stopping production of the XK in August & the last new ones will be going into the dealers over the next couple of months. How then does Mr Brown proceed from here? Will Jaguar continue to make a small quantity of XK chassis, just for him, while he builds & sells whatever production run he has planned for this? Doesn't sound like good economics for Jaguar - unless he's going to pay them a sky-high price...
Schnellmann said:
Zod said:
crostonian said:
Is it really 'utterly horrible' or a 'horrendous mess'? OK it's divisive and stretches value for money to the extreme but I would hardly describe it as such, there really are some pricks on here.
Are you really calling me a prick for not liking the interior? Take a look at yourself.
Like others, I saw it at the FOS. Was shocked by how wrong it looked to my eyes In so many ways.
I wish them well trying to sell them, but I will be staggered if they get enough takers at this price (or even a third of it) to turn a profit any time soon.cpresume name of game is trying to make a profit at some point.
Still the world woulfd be a very boring place if no-one ever tried anything this bold every now and again!
I wish them well trying to sell them, but I will be staggered if they get enough takers at this price (or even a third of it) to turn a profit any time soon.cpresume name of game is trying to make a profit at some point.
Still the world woulfd be a very boring place if no-one ever tried anything this bold every now and again!
Glad to hear it drives well, but it still looks more than a bit "off" to these eyes.
I reckon it doesn't look to bad at this angle:
But it all falls apart from this angle:
I guess it's at least interesting that this exists. The world would be a bit more boring if we didn't have a few David Browns with ambitions of building a sports/gt/supercar.
I reckon it doesn't look to bad at this angle:
But it all falls apart from this angle:
I guess it's at least interesting that this exists. The world would be a bit more boring if we didn't have a few David Browns with ambitions of building a sports/gt/supercar.
I still don't get this.
The going rate for a DB5 is about £550,000. The Speedback GT looks too much like a mash up of modern Jaguar and through-the-bottom-of-a-pint-glass sixties Aston and it costs £600,000.
Quite simply you don't buy a classic - or anything approximating to one - for its modern conveniences. Granted, an Eagle Speedster stacks up far better in the modern world than an original E-Type would, but it is a thing of beauty in its own right, sufficiently different both in looks and driving experience to differentiate itself from the donor Jaguar.
The problem is that the Speedback GT isn't either of those things. The principal styling influence is very clearly DB5/6, and yet it's not close enough to work as a replica and neither is it sufficiently different to work as a standalone product. Likewise, the clues to its XK underpinnings are simply too obvious for something that's supposed to be a bespoke product - particularly at this price point.
For £600,000 it either needs to be exceptionally good to drive (and the XK isn't £600,000 good) or it needs to be something that stands on its own as a piece of automotive sculpture. The latter of course is subjective, but if you wanted to park it on the drive and look at it, surely you'd buy the real thing?
The going rate for a DB5 is about £550,000. The Speedback GT looks too much like a mash up of modern Jaguar and through-the-bottom-of-a-pint-glass sixties Aston and it costs £600,000.
Quite simply you don't buy a classic - or anything approximating to one - for its modern conveniences. Granted, an Eagle Speedster stacks up far better in the modern world than an original E-Type would, but it is a thing of beauty in its own right, sufficiently different both in looks and driving experience to differentiate itself from the donor Jaguar.
The problem is that the Speedback GT isn't either of those things. The principal styling influence is very clearly DB5/6, and yet it's not close enough to work as a replica and neither is it sufficiently different to work as a standalone product. Likewise, the clues to its XK underpinnings are simply too obvious for something that's supposed to be a bespoke product - particularly at this price point.
For £600,000 it either needs to be exceptionally good to drive (and the XK isn't £600,000 good) or it needs to be something that stands on its own as a piece of automotive sculpture. The latter of course is subjective, but if you wanted to park it on the drive and look at it, surely you'd buy the real thing?
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