RE: David Brown Speedback GT: Review

RE: David Brown Speedback GT: Review

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JsyM3

98 posts

137 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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pthelazyjourno said:
crostonian said:
Is it really 'utterly horrible' or a 'horrendous mess'? OK it's divisive and stretches value for money to the extreme but I would hardly describe it as such, there really are some pricks on here.
There are some pricks on here because they don't agree with your sense of beauty? Strange chap.

It's ugly. Looks like the lights are off a MINI, it's a mish-mash.

If that makes me a prick, so be it.
I must be a prick too

The lights are MINI, the mirrors look ridiculous and that price is hilarious.

It just looks like someone's got a bit trigger happy on photoshop and mangled loads of different cars in to a "modern classic".

Might look better in the flesh but I want it to be incredible in every way for nearly £600k

smash

2,062 posts

228 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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If it were a £5k GRP body kit for the old XK8 platform it'd be slagged from here to kingdom come.

Just because it's a "name" and the fit and finish are ultra high quality doesn't change the fact that it looks, in design terms, like an awkwardly proportioned kit car.

A few emporer's new clothes types on here methinks.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Leaving the price and looks aside, I can't understand why the interior still has so much XK in it. It's half a job. At the very least it should have a bespoke steering wheel. Why go to such great lengths with the exterior and leave the inside so unloved?

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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djneils98 said:
its nice enough but nicer than a Wraith + 650s + RS6 + some change????!!!
This happens every single time, why don't people get it?? Do you think that anyone who can afford to pay 600K for a car hasn't got the money to buy another at the same time??? Why on earth would they worried about the fact they could get 3 other cars for the same price and have some change??? What's the change for anyway, to do the weekly shop at Tesco's?? You could buy 30 ford Focuses for the same money but they aren't going to do that either are they? What the mega rich want is to be seen as being individual with impeccable taste so limited volume, high quality cars appeal to them regardless of cost. It's why Bugatti had no problems selling out the more limited but hugely more expensive Super sport version of the Veyron but struggled to shift the regular car in the end. Anyone buying this car won't have forgotten that they need to buy a house, a daily driver, a sports car or any other comparison you can make for the same money will they??

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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RenOHH said:
Leaving the price and looks aside, I can't understand why the interior still has so much XK in it. It's half a job. At the very least it should have a bespoke steering wheel. Why go to such great lengths with the exterior and leave the inside so unloved?
Certification almost certainly - yes you can cxhange the interior archtechture, the steering wheel, the seats - but if that means you have to do all the xrash tests etc. - something you nicely avoided by creating what is structurally little more than a posh bodykit on an existing car, and only have a handful of sales to amortize that investment...

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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hideous waste of time, money and energy

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

147 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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i don't mind the looks outside, but that is far too JAG XK inside, rising gear selector and everything.
no way it looks bespoke enough for the money asked.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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gigglebug said:
This happens every single time, why don't people get it?? Do you think that anyone who can afford to pay 600K for a car hasn't got the money to buy another at the same time??? Why on earth would they worried about the fact they could get 3 other cars for the same price and have some change??? What's the change for anyway, to do the weekly shop at Tesco's?? You could buy 30 ford Focuses for the same money but they aren't going to do that either are they? What the mega rich want is to be seen as being individual with impeccable taste so limited volume, high quality cars appeal to them regardless of cost. It's why Bugatti had no problems selling out the more limited but hugely more expensive Super sport version of the Veyron but struggled to shift the regular car in the end. Anyone buying this car won't have forgotten that they need to buy a house, a daily driver, a sports car or any other comparison you can make for the same money will they??
"impeccable taste"



Okay, lol.

Neith

621 posts

140 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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600k and still retains way too much of the donor car to be worth that (and yes, I understand that intended buyers of this probably already have a fleet of exotic cars).

The body looks very awkward to me, and the wire wheels it sits on look daft with low profile tyres.

Not a fan in the slightest.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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crostonian said:
Is it really 'utterly horrible' or a 'horrendous mess'? OK it's divisive and stretches value for money to the extreme but I would hardly describe it as such, there really are some pricks on here.
Are you really calling me a prick for not liking the interior?

Take a look at yourself.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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PaulD86 said:
Zod said:
I mus tbe very lucky, given mine have pretty well always worked.
Classic Astons? I'm not having a go at the brand by the way. I love them and am planning a Vantage for a couple of cars time. New ones seem much better....though my uncles DB9 wouldn't start when I went to see him a few weeks back, choosing instead to display a key error and brake failure error message. My uncle didn't look overly surprised. Stood an looked at it instead. Beautiful object.
Oh yes, classics are a bit scary. I toy with the idea of an affordable one from time to time, then worry about the bills to keep it running and next time I look it's doubled in price!

Edited by Zod on Friday 1st August 13:56

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Janesy B said:
gigglebug said:
This happens every single time, why don't people get it?? Do you think that anyone who can afford to pay 600K for a car hasn't got the money to buy another at the same time??? Why on earth would they worried about the fact they could get 3 other cars for the same price and have some change??? What's the change for anyway, to do the weekly shop at Tesco's?? You could buy 30 ford Focuses for the same money but they aren't going to do that either are they? What the mega rich want is to be seen as being individual with impeccable taste so limited volume, high quality cars appeal to them regardless of cost. It's why Bugatti had no problems selling out the more limited but hugely more expensive Super sport version of the Veyron but struggled to shift the regular car in the end. Anyone buying this car won't have forgotten that they need to buy a house, a daily driver, a sports car or any other comparison you can make for the same money will they??
"impeccable taste"



Okay, lol.
And you've completely missed the point of what I've said. I wasn't so much defending this particular car just high value cars in general. The same old cheaper comparisons come out every time when it's irrelevant really. The only people who will decide if this car is special enough and worth the amount being asked for it are the people who will be able to afford it in the first place. It doesn't matter that you may not think it is a tasteful car, it wouldn't matter if I did (undecided as it happens. I really like the idea of classic cars brought up to date but as I've never lusted after a DB5 I don't really have any strong feelings for this car either)

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Here's the problem:

1) You can't discuss the "looks" because they are subjective. One mans beauty is another mans hideous

2) You can't discuss the "price" because that is also subjective. If you have £100M in the Bank, and there are plenty of people who do, then £600k is pocketmoney.


So, that leaves us with is it a decent car. Ie does it drive, handle, perform properly and will it be reliable. This article suggests that it does, and whilst not having "cutting edge" passenger car tech it sounds like it's a relatively decent lash together.

Do i personally like it? Not really, but as i couldn't afford it anyway, so what ;-)

However, the world is probably a better place for its existence, so overall it's a thumbs up from me

hammo19

4,989 posts

196 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Looks absolutely beautiful to me but then I think all Australian V8s are beautiful.....no class clearly. Agree that the price is nuts.

E36GUY

5,906 posts

218 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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FWDRacer said:
Sorry. I'd rather have the XK this is based on hehe

Retro pastiche gargoyle of a car. Horrendous.
Here here.

benters

1,459 posts

134 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I applaud him for taking the chance but admire his 'Cojones' more than the car. . .

ecs

1,228 posts

170 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Max_Torque said:
1) You can't discuss the "looks" because they are subjective. One mans beauty is another mans hideous
You can discuss the looks. Good design is a scientific as it is subjective, there are rules that you see replicated in beautiful objects both man made and natural.

If you decide to ignore the importance of proportion then you end with something which looks like the guy who chose the wheels didn't speak to the guy who penned the wheel arches and the guy who designed the rear lights forgot to look at the stock boot lid before making any decisions.

Passeyfier

285 posts

129 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I may be about to make a rather bold statement here but rebodying a modern car to try and evoke the shape of a car from the past without any of the niggles associated with classic motoring is always a risk and often doesn't cut the mustard. The Eagle Speedster works because it's based on an E Type. This just looks like a bloated DB5; simply a caricature of the classic. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't cost so much, but nigh on £600,000, wow. Think of the alternatives out there for the money!

IvanSTi

635 posts

119 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Nice enough looking car, but £600k? no thanks, they could have done a lot more with the interior to make it look more original.

JamesMK

556 posts

251 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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It's just as bad in the flesh! I saw it at Goodwood too, but it had the aura of an insensitive replica. Like a Panther DeVille trying to be Bugatti Royale. Front end too much like a Mini, blingy wheels, slab sided. I can understand of pitching a car at this level but only if it's done beautifully (like an Eagle).


SturdyHSV said:
Presumably it's better in the flesh, as the photos look like a DB5/6 through a fish eye lens, nasty!