anyone been lied to by a used car dealer?
Discussion
ZX10R NIN said:
nickfrog said:
Quite a strange industry where 90% of traders adapt by lying through their teeth and deceiving consumers. Maybe they've been doing that all along. Simply because they could, based on how complicated cars are to the general public and how much scope there is for being economical with the truth.
I am far from convinced that consumers have suddenly changed their attitudes so quickly, but maybe they've become wiser.
Still, either way, not exactly an industry where anyone with any sense of ethics might want to evolve in... unless they are in the 10% minority of course.
How many of you guys complaining about the car dealers informed them about any defects the cars you were trading in had? Maybe 10% lolI am far from convinced that consumers have suddenly changed their attitudes so quickly, but maybe they've become wiser.
Still, either way, not exactly an industry where anyone with any sense of ethics might want to evolve in... unless they are in the 10% minority of course.
Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 3rd August 16:45
Conversely what baffles me in the tales of traders trying to source car privately and getting stung is that if that happens to them so often, how come has it only ever happened to me once in 20 years of buying cars privately ? It really is not that difficult to source/qualify/do due diligence.
Either way, it doesn't put the trade in a very good light from an attention to detail or skill level POV...
TVR1 said:
BrownBottle said:
I see where you're coming from with the plural thing, haven't heard that one myself.
It's just that bought and brought have completely different meanings so I find it totally baffling, that's why I wondered if it was a regional thing.
No. Its not regional. It's Education and grammar.It's just that bought and brought have completely different meanings so I find it totally baffling, that's why I wondered if it was a regional thing.
Sadly lacking in many posters these days.
Bought, brought
Here, here's
Your, your'se
There , their
Here, hear.
Leather, leathers.
pmjg66 said:
Left the trade 4 years ago,yes multi point checks were carried out as per manufacturers list ( cough ) but any dealer up to speed should carry out a pre check like webuyanycar.com do ?
How many years have you been in the sales side of the trade ?
Do you not inspect any car traded in ?
or take the risk somewhat ?
I've been in the trade for 27 years, all the garages I worked for except the last (my own) were involved with sales. I don't know how in depth your "pre-sales" checks were, but I assume they weren't a full inspection with leak downs, compressions etc etc. if you are working with cars costing big numbers, they get a quick general check over then put into stock. When the car is sold, it is inspected properly and any issues are put right, including tyres, brakes, etc. If you fixed all the faults prior to sale you'd have a showroom full of cars that you have spent loads of prep money on. If they don't turn around quickly you can be seriously out of pocket. This is how proper garages work. The dodgy bodgers, like the place you worked, never last..How many years have you been in the sales side of the trade ?
Do you not inspect any car traded in ?
or take the risk somewhat ?
I know of several Porches with scored bores (that's a 7 grand bill to fix it properly)that have been sold to WBAC despite their silly little check list...
Edited by Cerbieherts on Wednesday 6th August 06:37
Edited by Cerbieherts on Wednesday 6th August 06:38
king morons.nickfrog said:
ZX10R NIN said:
nickfrog said:
Quite a strange industry where 90% of traders adapt by lying through their teeth and deceiving consumers. Maybe they've been doing that all along. Simply because they could, based on how complicated cars are to the general public and how much scope there is for being economical with the truth.
I am far from convinced that consumers have suddenly changed their attitudes so quickly, but maybe they've become wiser.
Still, either way, not exactly an industry where anyone with any sense of ethics might want to evolve in... unless they are in the 10% minority of course.
How many of you guys complaining about the car dealers informed them about any defects the cars you were trading in had? Maybe 10% lolI am far from convinced that consumers have suddenly changed their attitudes so quickly, but maybe they've become wiser.
Still, either way, not exactly an industry where anyone with any sense of ethics might want to evolve in... unless they are in the 10% minority of course.
Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 3rd August 16:45
Conversely what baffles me in the tales of traders trying to source car privately and getting stung is that if that happens to them so often, how come has it only ever happened to me once in 20 years of buying cars privately ? It really is not that difficult to source/qualify/do due diligence.
Either way, it doesn't put the trade in a very good light from an attention to detail or skill level POV...
Now try sourcing and buying 500 cars a year, very different proposition.
The best prestige buyers are on £100K a year and are very good at what they do,, they buy the odd faulty car, its an occupational hazard and cannot be avoided.
Renault dealer near to slough
Put a deposit down on a car for the other half
One lady owner (long story how it was too fast and she changed her mind) two owner car... It became gentleman owner and 3 before him. Wasn't happy. Deposit returned.
Prestige car dealer (for me)
370z price agreed to change on a 370z
Deposit down, called them back to discus delivery and the price had gone up £1000 pounds, bizarre and again deposit returned.
Don't see the point as it just created a lot of hustle for them and me and a loss of a sale
Put a deposit down on a car for the other half
One lady owner (long story how it was too fast and she changed her mind) two owner car... It became gentleman owner and 3 before him. Wasn't happy. Deposit returned.
Prestige car dealer (for me)
370z price agreed to change on a 370z
Deposit down, called them back to discus delivery and the price had gone up £1000 pounds, bizarre and again deposit returned.
Don't see the point as it just created a lot of hustle for them and me and a loss of a sale
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