anyone been lied to by a used car dealer?
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Osinjak said:
catman said:
Osinjak said:
Me on phone to Audi bloke; 'Has it got Xenons?' Bloke says, 'Absolutely;' then I'll be down this arvo says I. When I get there and eyeball the car it clearly doesn't have bloody Xenons and when I point this out to the car bloke he waffles on about super bright bulbs FFS. I still bought the car anyway but what a t
t, why bother telling fat porkies? I wouldn't have minded so much if he'd just apologised and said he'd made a mistake, everyone does, but the ste that he came out with was just embarrassing.
Unfortunately, you proved to him that it doesn't matter if they lie, as you bought the car.t, why bother telling fat porkies? I wouldn't have minded so much if he'd just apologised and said he'd made a mistake, everyone does, but the ste that he came out with was just embarrassing. Tim
Your first statement confirms that with a conditional:
"Has it got Xenons?"
:"Yes" - "then I'll be down this arvo"
The implication then being:
:"No" - "nevermind, I won't bother."
Simple IF..THEN..ELSE - the "Yes" statement being conditional on the test expression being true.
I'd say yes I've been lied to by car dealers, but not as much as by IT providers. My old company had a rule that we had to treble the timescale, and double the cost of whatever they told us. Even then it was often not fit for purpose.
Personally I've traded in cars which I had a bad feeling about. Once it turned out the head gasket failed on a car I traded in. I try to be honest though. Recently ran after a potential buyer of my 9-5 Aero as he was driving away, since I remembered I'd forgotten to tell him about a faulty fuel gauge. Equally I called a buyer after he'd left to inform him he'd overpaid me by £200. I even drove out to meet him since I knew he'd had all day in the car with his young family.
Bottom line is some people lie and cheat, and some of these sell cars, some fix computers, but most of them can't get a real job, so they go into politics! I find by being honest myself and expecting the best, I usually get it. Occasionally I may get done over, but I prefer that to becoming cynical, karma can be beautiful!
Personally I've traded in cars which I had a bad feeling about. Once it turned out the head gasket failed on a car I traded in. I try to be honest though. Recently ran after a potential buyer of my 9-5 Aero as he was driving away, since I remembered I'd forgotten to tell him about a faulty fuel gauge. Equally I called a buyer after he'd left to inform him he'd overpaid me by £200. I even drove out to meet him since I knew he'd had all day in the car with his young family.
Bottom line is some people lie and cheat, and some of these sell cars, some fix computers, but most of them can't get a real job, so they go into politics! I find by being honest myself and expecting the best, I usually get it. Occasionally I may get done over, but I prefer that to becoming cynical, karma can be beautiful!
bozmandb9 said:
I'd say yes I've been lied to by car dealers, but not as much as by IT providers.
Yes, but the thing is you don't hurtle down the motorway in your laptop do you? I do admire your attitude though, its very positive. To be honest I don't trust anyone anymore, most people will screw you over as soon as look at you. Sad but true. Edited by Qubit on Saturday 2nd August 10:05
and I don't particularly have anything against car dealers.Went to see a 5-series this week,asked about service history to be told, "yes, 5 dealer stamps and a few receipts" I then asked to see these stamps/receipts at which point he said "they are in the service book, in the glovebox" - so when I made the move to go look he disappeared inside his "hut" and didn't reappear.
He did that because there was no service history for the first 50k of the cars life and only one scabby MoT receipt to be seen. He never came back out and pretended to be on the phone, so I left.
He did that because there was no service history for the first 50k of the cars life and only one scabby MoT receipt to be seen. He never came back out and pretended to be on the phone, so I left.
Qubit said:
Yes, but the thing is you don't hurtle down the motorway in your laptop do you?
Not sure of the relevance. Once I've purchased a car, and before I do too much hurtling, it's my responsibility to ensure that's the car is hurtle worthy! Regardless of mileage, history, or hearsay, none of which are particularly relevant to condition. bozmandb9 said:
Qubit said:
Yes, but the thing is you don't hurtle down the motorway in your laptop do you?
Not sure of the relevance. Once I've purchased a car, and before I do too much hurtling, it's my responsibility to ensure that's the car is hurtle worthy! Regardless of mileage, history, or hearsay, none of which are particularly relevant to condition. xRIEx said:
Not really - a dealer is legally bound to ensure goods sold are fit for purpose; responsibility is with the dealer.
BS. This is related to age and cost paid, and you'd have to be pretty stupid to rely on this for the safety if your family. It's only your responsibility to make sure your car is safe. You may have a little comeback on a recently purchased car, depending on the age and mileage, but responsibility is still yours.
bozmandb9 said:
xRIEx said:
Not really - a dealer is legally bound to ensure goods sold are fit for purpose; responsibility is with the dealer.
BS. This is related to age and cost paid, and you'd have to be pretty stupid to rely on this for the safety if your family. It's only your responsibility to make sure your car is safe. You may have a little comeback on a recently purchased car, depending on the age and mileage, but responsibility is still yours.
bozmandb9 said:
I'd say yes I've been lied to by car dealers, but not as much as by IT providers. My old company had a rule that we had to treble the timescale, and double the cost of whatever they told us. Even then it was often not fit for purpose.
In the interests of fairness, I work in the latter industry...and yes; there are a lot of snakes around.bozmandb9 said:
Bottom line is some people lie and cheat, and some of these sell cars, some fix computers, but most of them can't get a real job, so they go into politics! I find by being honest myself and expecting the best, I usually get it. Occasionally I may get done over, but I prefer that to becoming cynical, karma can be beautiful!
True! A rival business (which has just been sold funnily enough) in the next town has TokyoSexwhale said:
xRIEx said:
Yeah, you're right, that's total BS. What was I thinking?
He is correct though.A dealers main interest is to make the sale, nothing else.
Is there any legal obligation for a dealer to sell a vehicle that is roadworthy, if advertised as such?
Years ago I bought a still under new car warranty Polo 16v from VW main dealer a good few miles from home and was told as its service was due it would be done before I picked it up.
Roll on a few weeks later I noticed the rear window element wasn't working so I took it to my local dealer to be fixed and was told they couldn't touch it as its service was not up to date, I showed them the book and they insisted it wasn't on VW's system, on checking the car it was found no service had been carried out filthy oil, dirty air filter etc etc needless to say the service manager of the supplying dealer had a bit of explaining to do...he got into a bit of bother as I remember.
Roll on a few weeks later I noticed the rear window element wasn't working so I took it to my local dealer to be fixed and was told they couldn't touch it as its service was not up to date, I showed them the book and they insisted it wasn't on VW's system, on checking the car it was found no service had been carried out filthy oil, dirty air filter etc etc needless to say the service manager of the supplying dealer had a bit of explaining to do...he got into a bit of bother as I remember.
BrownBottle said:
To be fair I read your post as you were looking for a model with xenons, salesman told you it had them, even though it didn't he managed to sell you the car anyway.
Just the way it came across.
Aye, fair one. I reread it as well and it does come across like that a bit.Just the way it came across.
xRIEx said:
Irrelevant - you reinforced that salesman's perception that lying will get the job done, so he'll keep doing it.
Your first statement confirms that with a conditional:
"Has it got Xenons?"
:"Yes" - "then I'll be down this arvo"
The implication then being:
:"No" - "nevermind, I won't bother."
Simple IF..THEN..ELSE - the "Yes" statement being conditional on the test expression being true.
I have to admit I laughed out loud at that one. Did you work that out all on your own or did an adult help you? Your first statement confirms that with a conditional:
"Has it got Xenons?"
:"Yes" - "then I'll be down this arvo"
The implication then being:
:"No" - "nevermind, I won't bother."
Simple IF..THEN..ELSE - the "Yes" statement being conditional on the test expression being true.
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