Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
Discussion
flemke said:
By the time I had gone no more than 400 metres, I discovered that the seat side bolsters were so fat and came so far forward that, whenever I tried to put on as much as 90° steering lock, one of my elbows would get baulked. It was not possible to steer the car properly.
I immediately pulled the car over to the side of the road and told the Morgan guy that it would be dangerous for me to drive the car any farther.
I wonder if this problem affects all users all the time or is something you learn to work around. I don't recall seeing the country lanes littered with crashed Aero 8s (accepting that it is a rare car anyway).I immediately pulled the car over to the side of the road and told the Morgan guy that it would be dangerous for me to drive the car any farther.
ManFromDelmonte said:
flemke said:
By the time I had gone no more than 400 metres, I discovered that the seat side bolsters were so fat and came so far forward that, whenever I tried to put on as much as 90° steering lock, one of my elbows would get baulked. It was not possible to steer the car properly.
I immediately pulled the car over to the side of the road and told the Morgan guy that it would be dangerous for me to drive the car any farther.
I wonder if this problem affects all users all the time or is something you learn to work around. I don't recall seeing the country lanes littered with crashed Aero 8s (accepting that it is a rare car anyway).I immediately pulled the car over to the side of the road and told the Morgan guy that it would be dangerous for me to drive the car any farther.
I think you can tell from this image:
that those big lumps are going to get in the way of the elbows of anyone who is driving with his or her arms properly bent.
I see that the factory also offer some kind of "sports" seat:
which does not present this problem.
flemke said:
hurstg01 said:
I had a good look around a 650 Le Mans a little while back, and it looked pretty damn good.
Would it be a tough choice between the 675LT and the 650 Le Man?
To me it was an easy decision.Would it be a tough choice between the 675LT and the 650 Le Man?
I'm not crazy about the front of the 675, specifically the way that the pair of bent, angled carbon-fibre "fences" either side of the reg plate go into the splitter at the bottom. They're reminiscent of what Ferrari might do, which is not always a good thing.
Otherwise, however, I think the car looks pretty good, especially at the back:
Initially I liked the idea of the LM, but a couple of details ruin it for me. For one thing, they have the roof snorkel all wrong - it's been squared off:
(btw, in the flesh it looks worse than in the image)which totally defeats the appeal of the subtle, elegant curves of the original:
which were evoked successfully in the P1:
Then we have the pseudo-OZ Crono wheels:
which, relative to the real thing:
are pretty awful.
When you do a limited edition for which people are paying I think it was IRO £40k premium for purely cosmetic changes, and those cosmetic changes are for the worse, it tends to defeat the point. The colour combo was good (although it might have been more interesting to incorporate 2 different shades of grey, as per the actual GTR), but those other details spoiled it for me.
Then we get to the driving and performance question. I have not driven a 675, but the weight difference alone will be enough to make it special. As I think I wrote above, the 675 goes most of the way to what I had hoped the P1 would be. It does not look as good as the P1 does, but I expect the driving experience to be superior and, for 1/3 the price, it is appealing.
love the details, no idea how it drives nor the price, but it looks damn good
- 04R
It looked a little tired, not as in-your-face pink as Andy's #13R but it hasn't had a refresh for a while and it had patina, which made it uber-cool IMO
Monty Python said:
Re the front of the 675 - could you not ask MSO to do something more to your linking if that's all that puts you off, or is there something else?
They will consider most customer requests. In this case, I don't think changing those pieces would be worth the effort required, as changing them would have implications for aerodynamic balance and cooling. In addition to design and manufacture, there would be a good deal of testing required. I hope and expect that this will be a good car, but it is unlikely to be so special as to justify the expenditure necessary to change those two pieces.
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