Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
Discussion
trackdemon said:
OK have read it now. Think the earlier comment a bit harsh, whilst it doesn't delve into the full gamut of limit handling characteristics that's probably more reflective of how people would really drive it - and I'd venture having the PR in tow probably meant sliding it out of hairpins was off the agenda from the get go. Perhaps they know it's a bit tricky and those roads weren't the place to muck about, given its value. Maybe a future track test will reveal all.
But it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
I read it a couple of times, got that it didn't have cup holders, did have car play, the ride was taught, car needed learning and that it sounded like a 90s F1 car. Did not make me feel I got a lot more than the rides they had previously hadBut it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
Having read the Autocar, Evo and Car tests on the F1 a while back I got a lot more info about the car drove from them (& still have the magazines). Hopefully someone else will review it a bit more in depth.
Top gear's online article is, strangely, in more depth and a fair bit more satisfying if still not lots of detail
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/gordon-murray-...
Edited by mclwanB on Friday 10th November 22:21
mclwanB said:
trackdemon said:
OK have read it now. Think the earlier comment a bit harsh, whilst it doesn't delve into the full gamut of limit handling characteristics that's probably more reflective of how people would really drive it - and I'd venture having the PR in tow probably meant sliding it out of hairpins was off the agenda from the get go. Perhaps they know it's a bit tricky and those roads weren't the place to muck about, given its value. Maybe a future track test will reveal all.
But it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
I read it a couple of times, got that it didn't have cup holders, did have car play, the ride was taught, car needed learning and that it sounded like a 90s F1 car. Did not make me feel I got a lot more than the rides they had previously hadBut it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
Having read the Autocar, Evo and Car tests on the F1 a while back I got a lot more info about the car drove from them (& still have the magazines). Hopefully someone else will review it a bit more in depth.
Top gear's online article is, strangely, in more depth and a fair bit more satisfying if still not lots of detail
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/gordon-murray-...
Edited by mclwanB on Friday 10th November 22:21
I seem to recall quite a few doubters on PH when the T50 was announced, claiming it would not get built.
mclwanB said:
trackdemon said:
OK have read it now. Think the earlier comment a bit harsh, whilst it doesn't delve into the full gamut of limit handling characteristics that's probably more reflective of how people would really drive it - and I'd venture having the PR in tow probably meant sliding it out of hairpins was off the agenda from the get go. Perhaps they know it's a bit tricky and those roads weren't the place to muck about, given its value. Maybe a future track test will reveal all.
But it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
I read it a couple of times, got that it didn't have cup holders, did have car play, the ride was taught, car needed learning and that it sounded like a 90s F1 car. Did not make me feel I got a lot more than the rides they had previously hadBut it did 'put me in the drivers seat' and I feel I have at least a semblance of an idea what it's like to drive, particularly with reference to how immersive and challenging it is to drive (echo's of F1 there then...).
Having read the Autocar, Evo and Car tests on the F1 a while back I got a lot more info about the car drove from them (& still have the magazines). Hopefully someone else will review it a bit more in depth.
Top gear's online article is, strangely, in more depth and a fair bit more satisfying if still not lots of detail
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/gordon-murray-...
mclwanB said:
Did notice one contradiction in that piece: "No power steering"
"the steering heavy (although some assistance is clutched in below 10mph)"
Well, it can't be both
There's no more info in that than the magazine piece; indeed it's essentially a cut down edit of the magazine piece, so I'm not sure what folks are talking about when they say this is more informative #shrug
trackdemon said:
mclwanB said:
Did notice one contradiction in that piece: "No power steering"
"the steering heavy (although some assistance is clutched in below 10mph)"
Well, it can't be both
There's no more info in that than the magazine piece; indeed it's essentially a cut down edit of the magazine piece, so I'm not sure what folks are talking about when they say this is more informative #shrug
Caddyshack said:
trackdemon said:
mclwanB said:
Did notice one contradiction in that piece: "No power steering"
"the steering heavy (although some assistance is clutched in below 10mph)"
Well, it can't be both
There's no more info in that than the magazine piece; indeed it's essentially a cut down edit of the magazine piece, so I'm not sure what folks are talking about when they say this is more informative #shrug
E90_M3Ross said:
Read the review, enjoyed it. What a marvellous thing. Sounds like it could well be even better than the F1 at what the F1 made it so great to drive.
Well it's essentially the new F1 made with modern tech and understanding, so it should be! Does sound like it'd be glorious to drive at any speed, I'd love to pour over some of the details...BunkMoreland said:
trackdemon said:
So, it does have power steering.... 
Yes, but above 10mph it disengages. Seems a clever way to do it to me. Far better than variable ratio racks! I drove an Audi with one and it was horrible! I am pleasantly surprised it's more raw and analogue than I thought. A real driver's car... although that's what they promised, after all, so it shouldn't be that surprising.
I wonder if Flemke now regrets not getting one... I know he said that he doesn't... but maybe now at least a little bit
I wonder if Flemke now regrets not getting one... I know he said that he doesn't... but maybe now at least a little bit
Isebac said:
I am pleasantly surprised it's more raw and analogue than I thought. A real driver's car... although that's what they promised, after all, so it shouldn't be that surprising.
I wonder if Flemke now regrets not getting one... I know he said that he doesn't... but maybe now at least a little bit
I do not, because there is little that I can do with the cars I have now: cars that I love to drive under the right conditions, but sadly those conditions are very difficult to realise. That is partly because of my personal circumstances but also because of the driving environment that gets more hostile every day. Frustrating, but not much that I can do about it. I wonder if Flemke now regrets not getting one... I know he said that he doesn't... but maybe now at least a little bit
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