Nice House vs nice Car? Which takes priority?

[designforlife]

okgo said:

Were you also in your early 30s?

Its a laugh when you're 24, less so when 34 I would bet.

Also depends on who its with- i share with two guys, in their 30s and 40s...one is a gardener and the other works shifts, so we are all like ships passing in the night...no domestic issues and everyone is just the right amount of laid back without being messy.

I wouldn't want to share with a bunch of lads in their 20s either...been there done that.

[okgo]

designforlife said:

Also depends on who its with- i share with two guys, in their 30s and 40s...one is a gardener and the other works shifts, so we are all like ships passing in the night...no domestic issues and everyone is just the right amount of laid back without being messy.

I wouldn't want to share with a bunch of lads in their 20s either...been there done that.

Do you all smoke weed together and listen to John Lennon?

[designforlife]

okgo said:

Do you all smoke weed together and listen to John Lennon?

sorry mate you've lost me

[RDMcG]

djc206 said:

kiethton said:

RDMcG said:

first house was not big ( 1900 sq ft), but on a bit of land.

That's f**king huge!

Mine (flat) is only just pushing 600!

Should sell it and get 3 458's.....

Not really. 1900sq ft would be a decent 4 bed or an average 5 bed in the UK I reckon. It's probably considered small in the US and Canada though, considering most Vegas hotel rooms are around 600 sqft

It was also cheap...at the time it the mortgage represented about 18 months combined income for myself and my wife, and we were very middle class in income. It is very different now of course in terms of affordability.

[djc206]

okgo said:

Were you also in your early 30s?

Its a laugh when you're 24, less so when 34 I would bet.

I was mid to late 20's but my housemates were all in their 30's. It's a very cost effective way of renting and it worked for us but then our employment situation and the fact we all house shared when we were training suited it. Horses for courses but I missed it for a while until we bought our own place.

[djc206]

RDMcG said:

djc206 said:

kiethton said:

RDMcG said:

first house was not big ( 1900 sq ft), but on a bit of land.

That's f**king huge!

Mine (flat) is only just pushing 600!

Should sell it and get 3 458's.....

Not really. 1900sq ft would be a decent 4 bed or an average 5 bed in the UK I reckon. It's probably considered small in the US and Canada though, considering most Vegas hotel rooms are around 600 sqft

It was also cheap...at the time it the mortgage represented about 18 months combined income for myself and my wife, and we were very middle class in income. It is very different now of course in terms of affordability.

Salting the wound

[Welshbeef]

djc206 said:

RDMcG said:

djc206 said:

kiethton said:

RDMcG said:

first house was not big ( 1900 sq ft), but on a bit of land.

That's f**king huge!

Mine (flat) is only just pushing 600!

Should sell it and get 3 458's.....

Not really. 1900sq ft would be a decent 4 bed or an average 5 bed in the UK I reckon. It's probably considered small in the US and Canada though, considering most Vegas hotel rooms are around 600 sqft

It was also cheap...at the time it the mortgage represented about 18 months combined income for myself and my wife, and we were very middle class in income. It is very different now of course in terms of affordability.

Salting the wound

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

[djc206]

Welshbeef said:

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

Your numbers are way off I suggest you go on Rightmove and have a look at a few floor plans, 3500ft is a very large house by UK standards.

Why would the extra bedroom be 1200sq ft? Who the fk has a 30ft by 40ft bedroom?

[Shnozz]

It's welshbeef with his Walter Mitty cock-wave.

It works similar to the number of men a woman will admit to sleeping with. Take whatever number and half it. Only it'll be alluded to.

[GetCarter]

djc206 said:

Welshbeef said:

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

Your numbers are way off I suggest you go on Rightmove and have a look at a few floor plans, 3500ft is a very large house by UK standards.

Why would the extra bedroom be 1200sq ft? Who the fk has a 30ft by 40ft bedroom?

FYI My 5 or 6 bed (which is reasonably well known as a new build) is 3290 sqft. 4300 sqft is BIG

[kiethton]

GetCarter said:

djc206 said:

Welshbeef said:

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

Your numbers are way off I suggest you go on Rightmove and have a look at a few floor plans, 3500ft is a very large house by UK standards.

Why would the extra bedroom be 1200sq ft? Who the fk has a 30ft by 40ft bedroom?

FYI My 5 or 6 bed (which is reasonably well known as a new build) is 3290 sqft. 4300 sqft is BIG

Exactly, I'm looking at the next step on the ladder, a 3 bed semi near me in SE London....most are only about 900 sqft, or up to 1,300 by the time you've converted the loft and lobbed a big rear/side extension on.

[Welshbeef]

djc206 said:

Welshbeef said:

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

Your numbers are way off I suggest you go on Rightmove and have a look at a few floor plans, 3500ft is a very large house by UK standards.

Why would the extra bedroom be 1200sq ft? Who the fk has a 30ft by 40ft bedroom?

It not simply a bolt on every room is bigger more en suite plus extra reception room (ie the ground floor below the extra bedroom).

[djc206]

Welshbeef said:

djc206 said:

Welshbeef said:

177m2/1900 sqft is not Big for a 4 bed and suggesting a 5 bed is t would be tiny.

2,300 sqft is a comfortable size for a 4 double bed house.
I'd expect a 5 bed to be way north of 3,500/ideally above 4,300sqft.

Your numbers are way off I suggest you go on Rightmove and have a look at a few floor plans, 3500ft is a very large house by UK standards.

Why would the extra bedroom be 1200sq ft? Who the fk has a 30ft by 40ft bedroom?

It not simply a bolt on every room is bigger more en suite plus extra reception room (ie the ground floor below the extra bedroom).

You're still way off. Just for reference the average 3 bed new build in this country is less than 1000sqft so your 1200sqft extra is just pure fiction, you don't add a 3 bed house to your 4 bed house to get a 5 bed house.

[Welshbeef]

kiethton said:

Exactly, I'm looking at the next step on the ladder, a 3 bed semi near me in SE London....most are only about 900 sqft, or up to 1,300 by the time you've converted the loft and lobbed a big rear/side extension on.

84m2 is a very small 3 bed IMHO and I've lived in many different houses

Our house as it stands 3 bed semi is 120m2 which we are increasing to 214m2 but only making it a 4 bed. Smallest bedroom is 11m2 largest is IIRC 16m2. Specifically we didn't want small bedrooms we wanted proper double bedrooms

The place before this was a 100m2 3 bed and that was Cody, and before that originally was 90m2 but has a 6x6 ground floor extension however those bedrooms are snug 3rd bedroom is a box.

All that said sadly when you look at the new builds they target 90m2 some as low as 75m2 for a3! 4 bed is 120m2 ish and 5 seems to be 180m2 (this is ignoring the bigger sized new builds).

[Welshbeef]

djc206 said:

You're still way off. Just for reference the average 3 bed new build in this country is less than 1000sqft so your 1200sqft extra is just pure fiction, you don't add a 3 bed house to your 4 bed house to get a 5 bed house.

The point is these are small sizes

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Going to the extremes this house is huge lovely and great room sizes sadly we don't see enough of this bigger space being flowed down to cheaper properties. Also new builds come with a postage stamp of land which is daft

[GetCarter]

Shall we all all talk the same language here? 214m2 = 2303 ft. i.e +/- half the size of 4500 ftsq.

[Welshbeef]

djc206 said:

You're still way off. Just for reference the average 3 bed new build in this country is less than 1000sqft so your 1200sqft extra is just pure fiction, you don't add a 3 bed house to your 4 bed house to get a 5 bed house.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58830287.html

252m2 3 bed house /2,718 sqft

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
5 bed 358m2//3,861sqft.

[Welshbeef]

GetCarter said:

Shall we all all talk the same language here? 214m2 = 2303 ft. i.e +/- half the size of 4500 ft.

That's correct

I said 3,500-4,500 for a 5 bed would be ideal.

[GetCarter]

Welshbeef said:

That's correct

I said 3,500-4,500 for a 5 bed would be ideal.

Fair enough. So you want a 418sqm 5 bed house. Fine by me!

ETA ...a mate of mine just built a 5 bed house near me, guessing at 1200 sqm. with swimming pool. Did cost him over £3 million mind.

Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 16th February 18:01

[djc206]

Welshbeef said:

The point is these are small sizes

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Going to the extremes this house is huge lovely and great room sizes sadly we don't see enough of this bigger space being flowed down to cheaper properties. Also new builds come with a postage stamp of land which is daft

Indeed they are, you might be surprised to learn that the governments minimum floor space for a 2 storey 5 bed house designed to accommodate 8 persons I.e. 3 doubles 2 singles is just 128m2/1377sqft. Now I agree that that's utterly ridiculous and it would feel like a prison but it gives you an idea of how small houses are in the U.K.

You can't have space without land and you can't have land without a lot of money sadly.