Overtaking cyclists on blind corners
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When the hell did this become acceptable?
Just gotten back from a lovely week in Dartmoor, and several times I saw this. Four times there was something coming the other way - anyone who's travelled those roads will tell you fitting two cars side by side is a stretch at times. Once I was in the oncoming car having to slam on the anchors and dive into a hedge. The other times I was merely watching a human being nearly get pancaked for the sake of...
what, exactly? You may have guessed these aren't the types to travel at more or less than 38 mph, so it's not as though waiting 30 seconds - at most - for a clear overtake meant I lost sight of them. Driving a laden french ecobox, so it's not as though they have less power to play with than I.
I know, idiots on all kinds of vehicles, not enough swearing etc etc... but graaargh, endangering someone else is even worse somehow when you're not even doing it for a reason.
Just gotten back from a lovely week in Dartmoor, and several times I saw this. Four times there was something coming the other way - anyone who's travelled those roads will tell you fitting two cars side by side is a stretch at times. Once I was in the oncoming car having to slam on the anchors and dive into a hedge. The other times I was merely watching a human being nearly get pancaked for the sake of...
what, exactly? You may have guessed these aren't the types to travel at more or less than 38 mph, so it's not as though waiting 30 seconds - at most - for a clear overtake meant I lost sight of them. Driving a laden french ecobox, so it's not as though they have less power to play with than I.
I know, idiots on all kinds of vehicles, not enough swearing etc etc... but graaargh, endangering someone else is even worse somehow when you're not even doing it for a reason.
I've been cycling to and from work (well, the station) for 3 years - it has got worse in the last year. There is one corner near home where I now put my arm out as though turning left, and move out to the middle of the road. Still didn't stop one idiot going around me right over the road, but most appear to stay back.
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
Urban Sports said:
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I pay as much road tax as anyone else who has two cars. At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I think its simply a case of people take more risks than before, it could be anything, cyclist, slow moving vehicle etc, people just cant seem to wait for a clear view of the road ahead and chance it, drop a gear, boot it and hope for the best. All well and good in something with power but I see the eternal optimist in a 1.1 Hyundai try the same thing too...
aclivity said:
Urban Sports said:
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I pay as much road tax as anyone else who has two cars. At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I notice it both on the bike and in the car, people are generally stupid (and getting more so it seems) if I am holding back on a blind corner from passing a cyclist you can almost guarantee that the car behind me is weaving around trying to work out why I aren't making any attempt to go past.
Urban Sports said:
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I think you need to stop this. This is about the 5th time you've said this in a deliberate attempt to start an argument. Can you not just keep your moronic crap to yourself? At least go and educate yourself if this is 'really' what you think.At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
Go and look at the M25 if you want to see what the cause of most issues relating to traffic are. Yes, its too many cars.
The family and I were nearly hit by some bellend in a 9-5 estate doing just this on saturday.
While the overtake was ill advised(f
king stupid) the problem was exacerbated by the driver having to swing fully onto our side of the road to get over the colossal single lane speed hump .
If it werent for the hump there would have been adequate space for 2 cars and some margin of safety for the cyclist - it would have been tight and there would have been honking and swearing but no real danger of a crash.
Ergo
Speedbumps kill cyclists and small children so should be banned
Amiright?
While the overtake was ill advised(f
king stupid) the problem was exacerbated by the driver having to swing fully onto our side of the road to get over the colossal single lane speed hump . If it werent for the hump there would have been adequate space for 2 cars and some margin of safety for the cyclist - it would have been tight and there would have been honking and swearing but no real danger of a crash.
Ergo
Speedbumps kill cyclists and small children so should be banned
Amiright?
okgo said:
Urban Sports said:
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
I think you need to stop this. This is about the 5th time you've said this in a deliberate attempt to start an argument. Can you not just keep your moronic crap to yourself? At least go and educate yourself if this is 'really' what you think.At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
Go and look at the M25 if you want to see what the cause of most issues relating to traffic are. Yes, its too many cars.
kwits? As for the O/p's question... it's not just cyclists being overtaken on bends, hill crests etc. Face it there are a lot of s on the roads these days 
paranoid airbag said:
When the hell did this become acceptable?
Just gotten back from a lovely week in Dartmoor, and several times I saw this. Four times there was something coming the other way - anyone who's travelled those roads will tell you fitting two cars side by side is a stretch at times. Once I was in the oncoming car having to slam on the anchors and dive into a hedge. The other times I was merely watching a human being nearly get pancaked for the sake of...
what, exactly? You may have guessed these aren't the types to travel at more or less than 38 mph, so it's not as though waiting 30 seconds - at most - for a clear overtake meant I lost sight of them. Driving a laden french ecobox, so it's not as though they have less power to play with than I.
I know, idiots on all kinds of vehicles, not enough swearing etc etc... but graaargh, endangering someone else is even worse somehow when you're not even doing it for a reason.
It became acceptable after the Measures / Perinova case last year. Just gotten back from a lovely week in Dartmoor, and several times I saw this. Four times there was something coming the other way - anyone who's travelled those roads will tell you fitting two cars side by side is a stretch at times. Once I was in the oncoming car having to slam on the anchors and dive into a hedge. The other times I was merely watching a human being nearly get pancaked for the sake of...
what, exactly? You may have guessed these aren't the types to travel at more or less than 38 mph, so it's not as though waiting 30 seconds - at most - for a clear overtake meant I lost sight of them. Driving a laden french ecobox, so it's not as though they have less power to play with than I.
I know, idiots on all kinds of vehicles, not enough swearing etc etc... but graaargh, endangering someone else is even worse somehow when you're not even doing it for a reason.
50+mph on blind bend, so far into the opposing lane that two cyclists had to take avoiding action, the second of whom wobbled or fell and got hit by the car and killed. Cleared of causing death by careless driving.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 11th August 11:50
Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 11th August 11:56
Urban Sports said:
The problem is that the cyclists are just in the way far too much, really they should chip in like everybody else and pay road tax to maybe pay for wider roads or more cycle lanes thus eliminating many of the problems caused by them.
At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
Think you missed a smilie or two off the end of that.......At the moment they have a free reign of the roads, they need to pay.
This is a real issue and I have witnessed it several times while on the road.
I have been on the receiving end of this when cycling, a car was trying overtake and then had to swerve in toward me to avoid an oncoming vehicle well within their lane.
Also been on my motorbike and had a car appear straddling the center line! I had take evasive action to avoid being clipped by the idiot.
However this issue becomes worse when cyclists decide to ride side by side. I still fail to understand why they do this?
I have been on the receiving end of this when cycling, a car was trying overtake and then had to swerve in toward me to avoid an oncoming vehicle well within their lane.
Also been on my motorbike and had a car appear straddling the center line! I had take evasive action to avoid being clipped by the idiot.
However this issue becomes worse when cyclists decide to ride side by side. I still fail to understand why they do this?
Obviously there have been numerous threads about driving standards, and we all know it is getting worse for a whole host of very frustrating reasons, but one comment is the most significant, and that is the shear volume of traffic on the raods which in turn leads to frustration and impatience, and then stupid behaviour (on top of all the other reasons people behave stupidly) and mistakes...
You would think that we cannot afford the solution (proper cycle lanes) but I wonder what the A&E costs are?
Taxing cyclists is not feasible...technically yes, but a low emmisions car is tax free, and how much could you charge a cyclist...£10-20 p.a.? It would cost more to recover the tax, and how could you effectivley police non payers...
You would think that we cannot afford the solution (proper cycle lanes) but I wonder what the A&E costs are?
Taxing cyclists is not feasible...technically yes, but a low emmisions car is tax free, and how much could you charge a cyclist...£10-20 p.a.? It would cost more to recover the tax, and how could you effectivley police non payers...
aclivity said:
Renn Sport said:
However this issue becomes worse when cyclists decide to ride side by side. I still fail to understand why they do this?
I do this when cycling with my children. To stop the idiots driving into them.Should I stop this, and let the idiots get too close to my children?
This means you can return to the left sooner and you spend less time on the wrong side of the road.
If there's not room, there's not room and the pass wasn't on anyway.
Safer for everyone really.
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