Is the diesel backlash about to start?

[ORD]

so called said:

I'm in India this week. 2 stroke TuckTucks were band because of the pollution so 4 strokes PutPuts have taken over but what a stink.
20 minutes to the office and after 5 minutes I've a headache worse than an English beer hangover..
Noise, pollution or both ? I think both but compared to India, Europe is as clean as a whistle pollution free.
One law for the rich nations, another for the poor and then another for the pretend poor (China, India) and another for the mega rich USA, 40 TV's in every pub OTT and Russia can do what they want.

BY THE WAY I FLEW ON A DREAMLINER TO INDIA YESTERDAY so I saved the world.

Huh? Last sentence makes no sense.

[so called]

Sorry if I sound a bit cranky but my bags found their way to Germany to India and by the time they reach india I'll be in Canada.
BTW are three day old underpants on the EU 'very bad' list ? (Running for flights, overnight flights etc.,etc)
Diesel, one away from Channel No5.
Cigars ???? I've got a Cuban stashed away

[anonymous-user]

heebeegeetee said:

ORD said:

Yep.

Some of us have been calling this for a while:-

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=139...

Taxes will increase; cities will charge for entry.

I don't have a huge deal of sympathy for people who have put mpg ahead of not poisoning the local community, though

Since April? it's been going on for 25 years at best!

For years - decades! I've been reading this stuff. We did a calculation on another thread and concluded that in my lifetime, some 2.5 million people in the UK alone must have 'died of diesel', yet for some strange reason I've never heard of anyone doing so, nor know of anyone who knows somebody who knows of somebody who definitely died of air pollution, diesel related or otherwise.

The backlash has to start sometime, if there's any truth in the stories. Amazed it's taken so long though.

Are you still banging the same old drum?

[so called]

ORD said:

so called said:

I'm in India this week. 2 stroke TuckTucks were band because of the pollution so 4 strokes PutPuts have taken over but what a stink.
20 minutes to the office and after 5 minutes I've a headache worse than an English beer hangover..
Noise, pollution or both ? I think both but compared to India, Europe is as clean as a whistle pollution free.
One law for the rich nations, another for the poor and then another for the pretend poor (China, India) and another for the mega rich USA, 40 TV's in every pub OTT and Russia can do what they want.

BY THE WAY I FLEW ON A DREAMLINER TO INDIA YESTERDAY so I saved the world.

Huh? Last sentence makes no sense.

Maybe your right as I've indulged in the booze is spoke if earlier but my point is;-
The Dreamliner is a super efficient aircraft that is going to save the world from pollution.
BUT every year these planes will be filling the sky's more and more so there is no reduction, only a slowing of the increase.
Electrics the way to go ( ins being sarcastic) no one makes it to work, electric planes don't really take off !!! (That was quite funny) and in the background there is either a dirty coal or nuclear power station providing the energy.

I suggest married couples should be mandated to have sex 7 x per week as a winter warmer.
(Regardless of age so to keep us fit or get rid of the NHS drainers).

DISCLAIMER - If this makes no sense, it wasn't my intention to cause people to think twice.

[Baryonyx]

Hopefully the tide will turn on the diesel monster. It would be funny if it came back to bite the tightwads on the arse.

[BFG TERRANO]

RochdalePioneers said:

Had diesels for 12 years and I've had my last. Sick of the noise, the vibration and the smell. Yes they're economical but expensive to buy and maintain and repair when the extra bits break.

Ditto. Even the new company car is petrol now. No more rattly st for me work or private.

[heebeegeetee]

St John Smythe said:

Are you still banging the same old drum?

It's not old - it's only the second thread I've raised this particular aspect.

[MC Bodge]

My car is diesel, but as a cyclist and runner I have become less in favour of it. I am considering petrol for my next car.

[Osinjak]

Diesel here as well. Quite simply I'm bored with the lack of emotion, I want something that gives me a semi when I floor it. Next car will definitely be a petrol. A big one.

[BlueMR2]

As soon as they showed the next London cab as being petrol you should have known diesel was on the way out.

[so called]

This thread is pathetic and full of apologetics.
Diesel has been pumping out the the soot for years and you've all ignored it and gone with the 'petrols evil' BS and now when the wise and knowing ell you. Your saying 'oh yes, that's right.
Bloodily pathetic and get of PH for gods sake.
Not one of you are PH but just hangers onkers.

[DickHerpes]

ITT: People pretending they'll get a petrol next time. You wont. You've sold out once, you'll never go back.

[Condi]

I will run whatever is the cheapest to get me from A-B, with reasonable power and distance between fuel stops. At the moment thats a diesel, by quite some margin.

[IceBoy]

The great diesel scandal.
Crazy
IceBoy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720341/Th...

[daemon]

Baryonyx said:

Hopefully the tide will turn on the diesel monster. It would be funny if it came back to bite the tightwads on the arse.

Given the choice between driving a diesel on a 55mph 94 mile return commute daily and spending approx 180 a month and driving a 2.0i petrol over the same 55mph drudge, i'll happily take the extra £200 a month in my back pocket to spend on things i enjoy doing, or a weekend toy.

If they do start taxing diesel mentally (and they'll do it over several years at least), i'd probably look at a Prius when i'm due a change.

To put that £200 a month in perspective, i've just been offered a running but not MOT'd and currently in someones garage Corrado 2.0 16v in Black Metallic for £300. Would rather save that than piss £200 a month extra up the wall in fuel.

Edited by daemon on Monday 11th August 20:01

[Krikkit]

daemon said:

Baryonyx said:

Hopefully the tide will turn on the diesel monster. It would be funny if it came back to bite the tightwads on the arse.

Given the choice between driving a diesel on a 55mph 94 mile return commute daily and spending approx 180 a month and driving a 2.0i petrol over the same 55mph drudge, i'll happily take the extra £200 a month in my back pocket to spend on things i enjoy doing, or a weekend toy.

If they do start taxing diesel mentally (and they'll do it over several years at least), i'd probably look at a Prius when i'm due a change.

To put that £200 a month in perspective, i've just been offered a running but not MOT'd and currently in someones garage Corrado 2.0 16v in Black Metallic for £300. Would rather save that than piss £200 a month extra up the wall in fuel.

Edited by daemon on Monday 11th August 20:01

Have to agree, although like every car they serve a purpose. I'm backwards and forwards 70 miles/day in stty traffic and a diesel makes much more sense than a petrol. There's no pleasure to be had out there in a morning, so I may as well buy a diesel + a toy for weekend.

[lightthefuse]

DickHerpes said:

ITT: People pretending they'll get a petrol next time. You wont. You've sold out once, you'll never go back.

Negative Ghostrider... from a 9-5 TiD to a petrol 208 - I just downsized to optimise the mpg instead. So far I've only been caught short for load lugging capacity at work once.

Then again, now I've gone from city to country a diesel is starting to make sense again.

ETA - yep, the backlash has begun, but think that turbo petrols are a stepping stone to petrol-electric minus the range anxiety if I'm honest.

[Monkeylegend]

so called said:

This thread is pathetic and full of apologetics.
Diesel has been pumping out the the soot for years and you've all ignored it and gone with the 'petrols evil' BS and now when the wise and knowing ell you. Your saying 'oh yes, that's right.
Bloodily pathetic and get of PH for gods sake.
Not one of you are PH but just hangers onkers.

Again in English please.

Hangers onkers

Have you missed your medication by any chance?

[Osinjak]

so called said:

This thread is pathetic and full of apologetics.
Diesel has been pumping out the the soot for years and you've all ignored it and gone with the 'petrols evil' BS and now when the wise and knowing ell you. Your saying 'oh yes, that's right.
Bloodily pathetic and get of PH for gods sake.
Not one of you are PH but just hangers onkers.

Did you type that with your face?

[lightthefuse]

Something just occurred to me. Is the "backlash" being deliberately engineered what with the new regulations coming in about bunker oil in marine traffic? For those that have missed it, there's even tighter restrictions on particulate emissions from marine fuel coming in from 2016, if I've understood it correctly.

In other words, the heavier fuel is going to be needed for cleaner marine fuel, so better stop those pesky car buyers from consuming it?