What new car from 1990 would you run as a DD?
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CampDavid said:
MGJohn said:
CampDavid said:
MGJohn said:
Being PH I doubt few would ever consider one of these. One or more were my DDs for over ten years. Still have a low mileage 1985 example.
MG Montego Turbo
Of everything available in 1990, you'd go with that?MG Montego Turbo
Really?
It's a DD.... OK, I'd also like a Formula 1 Ferrari from that era. Yow can keep the rest.
Better now CD ?
Seriously, you'd walk past the fabulous Porsche 928, the sublime Mercedes 560SEL or the BMW 730i to get into a Montego?
If we're sticking with family cars, the Peugeot 405, Citroen BX, Vauxhall Cavalier, the Ford Model T all outgun the Montego.
So you were a wise eight year old. Hah! You did not get it then and never will.
Yes, I'd walk past all the German tinware you list simply because I do get it. Not a Gull Wing 300sl though but, those are from a time when I was young too.
I have more than one car and if you regurgitate more of your Montego negativity, I'll post more pictures especially for you to enjoy ...
In fairness, the Montego was quite a highly regarded car in its day. They won a lot of road tests in the magazines. The MG version was genuinely fast for the time in its market segment.
The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
dbdb said:
In fairness, the Montego was quite a highly regarded car in its day. They won a lot of road tests in the magazines. The MG version was genuinely fast for the time in its market segment.
The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
You are right about the 400.The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
That said, there is a reason that the barge thread concentrates on MB and BMW in the main - I appreciate the Montego, and have owned several Rovers from the 80s and 90s, but the Montego is a world away. It really is.
Justayellowbadge said:
dbdb said:
In fairness, the Montego was quite a highly regarded car in its day. They won a lot of road tests in the magazines. The MG version was genuinely fast for the time in its market segment.
The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
You are right about the 400.The nature of enthusiasm is that it is not a rational thing. Ferraris do nothing for me for example. At a car show, I would spend more time looking at this Montego than I would almost any Ferrari - the exception would be the 400GT.
It is strange how some cars become lionised (such as older Mercedes on PH - the 'smoker barge' thread is like a cult), whilst other often worthy cars get shunned.
That said, there is a reason that the barge thread concentrates on MB and BMW in the main - I appreciate the Montego, and have owned several Rovers from the 80s and 90s, but the Montego is a world away. It really is.
I have a barge myself - an old Jaguar. There is much less interest in them on the barge thread than there is in the equivalent Mercedes. It is pretty much a W124 and W126 thread with the odd BMW thrown in.
In this thread, someone has been criticised for not liking a 1.6 sierra more than a Ferrari F40 and, only a few posts further on, someone else has been critisised for liking a Montego more than a Mercedes 560.
Personally, I gain more pleasure from looking at cars of my youth that seem to be dead and buried than looking at yet another photograph of a Ferrari (beautiful, but common on the Internet), so please keep your Montegos and Sieeras coming.
Personally, I gain more pleasure from looking at cars of my youth that seem to be dead and buried than looking at yet another photograph of a Ferrari (beautiful, but common on the Internet), so please keep your Montegos and Sieeras coming.
Edited by minerva on Saturday 16th August 07:00
bishbash said:
I love the Sport 300. Remember when Aurocar tested it and for me it was the car of the time. In many ways more desirable and probably just as able as a 993RS. Think you may be a few years after 1990 though!I have a very soft spot for the Peugeot 405 as if was seen as the best driving cheap, medium sized saloon out there. The MI16 was all well and good but as a 10 year old I quite like the less fussy lines of the 1.9GR. Those were the days...
This was my 1990 daily for about 3 years, it wouldn't be my choice though.
Although it's a bit late being a 91 car registered in 92, my Audi 80 quattro is a much stronger contender for something I'd actually choose as my daily, it's still fast and comfortable by todays standards. But at almost £25k with the optional sunroof and metallic paint, I don't think I could justify it.
Although it's a bit late being a 91 car registered in 92, my Audi 80 quattro is a much stronger contender for something I'd actually choose as my daily, it's still fast and comfortable by todays standards. But at almost £25k with the optional sunroof and metallic paint, I don't think I could justify it.
minerva said:
In this thread, someone has been criticised for not liking a 1.6 sierra more than a Ferrari F40 and, only a few posts further on, someone else has been critisised for liking a Montego more than a Mercedes 560.
Personally, I gain more pleasure from looking at cars of my youth that seem to be dead and buried than looking at yet another photograph of a Ferrari (beautiful, but common on the Internet), so please keep your Montegos and Sieeras coming.
Many enthusiasts are interested in fairly mainstream stuff: very few have the means or interest to want to run the 'bedroom wall poster' cars. Personally, I gain more pleasure from looking at cars of my youth that seem to be dead and buried than looking at yet another photograph of a Ferrari (beautiful, but common on the Internet), so please keep your Montegos and Sieeras coming.
Edited by minerva on Saturday 16th August 07:00
So another vote from me to keep the Sierras, Montegos, Cavaliers coming. I await the first Maestro!
electricdriver said:
It is pretty easy to see cars gone by with rose tinted glasses, in many ways we get it so good nowadays. Engines last several hundred thousand miles and they've never been so powerful. IMHO, the car field in 1990 wasn't any cooler than today, sure there were examples of really cool cars (much like today, just wait till a few of them age a bit) but the majority was pretty mundane and absolutely nothing special.
Today we have:
I have the choice of a few cars. The S2000, Ford Capri, TR8, or the ladies dreadful new Fiesta now, but there has been her Mazda & Holden Commodore in the last few years.Today we have:
- Frugal diesel cars/estates that do 0-60 in about 5 seconds (335d and others that come close to that performance).
- Big full size, work pickups with "little" V6 engines that do 0-60 in about 6 seconds and can tow in well excess of 10,000 lbs (F-150 EcoBoost).
- Back to basics RWD Toyotas designed to be pure driving machines (GT86, surely destined to be a future classic).
- Ford Europe producing a whole range of hot hatches and super hot hatches (Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS).
- GM Europe selling a bunch of overpowered hot rods (Corsa, Astra, Insignia and the VXR8 - did you ever think that Opel/Vauxhall would sell a 600hp car in 1990?).
- The big three American manufacturers are producing pony cars, not slow 80s ones, nor boring looking 90s ones, truly exciting to look at fast cars!
- Jaguar is producing a little sportscar that sounds like the apocalypse!
However if it is not raining, & I won't be parking in a shopping center car park, it is my TR7 I reach for, & have done so for 12 years.
If I have a long way to go, 500 miles say, I will take the 7 particularly if it is wet. It handles wet roads & standing water better than any front drive car I've found, & better than the over wheeled & tyred sporty things of today.
I have just freshened the drivetrain, & shouted her a coat of paint, & will drive her for the next 10 years petrol supply willing.
Don't need rose tinted glasses electricdriver, I can look at these things in real time.
Can we move this start date back another 10 years to get to some good cars please?
I'd forgotten all about the Montego, when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s they were everywhere.
Quite a decent-looking car actually. I see to recall that there was a turbodiesel version that was regarded as fairly quick at the time.
And that Sierra looks to be in amazing condition! Good to see one of the non-performance versions is still in use and well looked-after.
Quite a decent-looking car actually. I see to recall that there was a turbodiesel version that was regarded as fairly quick at the time.
And that Sierra looks to be in amazing condition! Good to see one of the non-performance versions is still in use and well looked-after.
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