RE: Morgan Plus 8 Speedster: Driven
Discussion
Nothing to add really to what has already been stated here, but for a car to enjoy on a sunny Sunday morning driving down quiet country roads, I can think of nothing better to put a smile on your face.
Most Morgans I see tend to be used for long distance touring along with other Morgan owners & so I guess a plus 8 would be needed as well if thats your thang.
Most Morgans I see tend to be used for long distance touring along with other Morgan owners & so I guess a plus 8 would be needed as well if thats your thang.
tenpenceshort said:
Sorry to sound like a moaning prick, but you obviously aren't sensitive to it. To some extent you're employed to write for a living. If that's your job, I would have thought proof reading your own work would be part of that. Blaming your editor for not checking your writing for glaring errors is passing the buck and ignoring the obvious.
That was only intended as a joke! We often have to proof read our own stuff and most of the time it's successful. Nobody is infallible though and stuff does get missed in a rush to publish it. I apologise for that, it's far more annoying for us than you! But at least we get alerted to errors in live stories so swiftly...Matt
Absolutely love this! If anybody didn't know, I'm a huge Morgan fan. It was at the first British car show I ever went to as a child that I instantly fell in love with Morgans and classic British cars, in general. I was already into cars, but growing up in America watching Dukes of Hazzard re-runs daily after school, I was into muscle cars and hot rods. I had never heard of Morgan, Ginetta, Sunbeam, Singer, and the like, but that day spent ogling +8s, big Healeys, and original Minis placed me onto the path of cars that were made for racing involving turns.
And charging fifteen grand less for a special edition (that has less content) is a novel idea! I wonder if anybody in Stuttgart is paying attention?
And charging fifteen grand less for a special edition (that has less content) is a novel idea! I wonder if anybody in Stuttgart is paying attention?
Rotrax said:
So, almost as good as a Griffith then, only around £60K more.
Tell you what, I'll have a Griff, an XKR, an Elise, a Defender and an XF Sportbrake for the same money.
Sorted!
Why is it that whatever the car being reviewed there is almost always someone that posts the equivalent to the above, that for the price of new car A they could get B, C, D,Tell you what, I'll have a Griff, an XKR, an Elise, a Defender and an XF Sportbrake for the same money.
Sorted!
etc used cars? Or do buyers of new cars like the Morgan really go into the dealership to buy one and at the last moment change their mind and go and buy a random selection of used cars?
Perhaps what PH needs is a list of standard (dull) sentences, like the list of smilies, to make it easier for people to make the same comments again and again and again....
Stinson said:
tenpenceshort said:
Sorry to sound like a moaning prick, but you obviously aren't sensitive to it. To some extent you're employed to write for a living. If that's your job, I would have thought proof reading your own work would be part of that. Blaming your editor for not checking your writing for glaring errors is passing the buck and ignoring the obvious.
Proof reading your own work is very difficult.Stinson said:
tenpenceshort said:
Sorry to sound like a moaning prick, but you obviously aren't sensitive to it. To some extent you're employed to write for a living. If that's your job, I would have thought proof reading your own work would be part of that. Blaming your editor for not checking your writing for glaring errors is passing the buck and ignoring the obvious.
Proof reading your own work is very difficult.sawman said:
Luca Brasi said:
Where do they keep getting those engines as it's been a while since BMW sold a n/a V8 car?
Charles Morgan bought a shedload of them - I think it was one of the decisions that got him into trouble with the board, when they found outI see Morgan as a company that has perfected a product for a reality that UK road driving is about capturing driving thrills and experiences under 100mph. The effortless NA, big cc engines seems very core to that as opposed to fiesty smaller engines that need working or turbos that deliver too much.
DonkeyApple said:
Probably transpire to be a wise move. I can't really see Morgans running with turbos, it's a power delivery that just doesn't seem to fit with the type of motoring the brand caters to. As such, where will Morgan go when they can no longer source large NA engines?
Sorry to drag this up and not having a go, but surely there'll still be V8 producers for a while; even if not BMW? I can't see Americans dumping the V8 for a long while - maybe the capacities will decrease. I'd have thought that if there's a market for Morgan type cars, there's a market for NA V8 [type] engines..Gompo said:
DonkeyApple said:
Probably transpire to be a wise move. I can't really see Morgans running with turbos, it's a power delivery that just doesn't seem to fit with the type of motoring the brand caters to. As such, where will Morgan go when they can no longer source large NA engines?
Sorry to drag this up and not having a go, but surely there'll still be V8 producers for a while; even if not BMW? I can't see Americans dumping the V8 for a long while - maybe the capacities will decrease. I'd have thought that if there's a market for Morgan type cars, there's a market for NA V8 [type] engines..Everyone seems to be shrinking their engines and slapping on turbos.
Could the Morgan brand stomach a GM or Ford engine?
In two to three years time, at the current rate they are dissapearing, just who is going to be building an NA V8 that can be bought off the shelf?
DonkeyApple said:
You'd hope so but Morgan only need a few engines a year and no one is going to build an engine for them. Morgan will have to take what is available and when you look around it is very hard to find a NA V8 today in contrast to just a few years ago.
Everyone seems to be shrinking their engines and slapping on turbos.
Could the Morgan brand stomach a GM or Ford engine?
In two to three years time, at the current rate they are dissapearing, just who is going to be building an NA V8 that can be bought off the shelf?
Morgan currently use Ford engines and have done so for years.Everyone seems to be shrinking their engines and slapping on turbos.
Could the Morgan brand stomach a GM or Ford engine?
In two to three years time, at the current rate they are dissapearing, just who is going to be building an NA V8 that can be bought off the shelf?
The V6 used in the Roadster is a slightly detuned version of the V6 used in the Mustang. Also the 1.6 used in the 4/4 and the 2.0 used in the +4 are Ford units.
So they can stomach using engines from Ford. I am sure that they will easily source a normally aspirated V8 when the BMW engines run out and a new model needs to be developed.
In the past they have used engines from Rover, Triumph and even Fiat. They use the most suitable available for the given need.
RosscoPCole said:
Morgan currently use Ford engines and have done so for years.
The V6 used in the Roadster is a slightly detuned version of the V6 used in the Mustang. Also the 1.6 used in the 4/4 and the 2.0 used in the +4 are Ford units.
So they can stomach using engines from Ford. I am sure that they will easily source a normally aspirated V8 when the BMW engines run out and a new model needs to be developed.
In the past they have used engines from Rover, Triumph and even Fiat. They use the most suitable available for the given need.
Yup. I think the Coyote is a cracker of an engine but I do wonder how US power plants v German impacts on ultimate price pointing and also the long term impact of NA engine options reducing so rapidly. I don't think it is good for purists. The V6 used in the Roadster is a slightly detuned version of the V6 used in the Mustang. Also the 1.6 used in the 4/4 and the 2.0 used in the +4 are Ford units.
So they can stomach using engines from Ford. I am sure that they will easily source a normally aspirated V8 when the BMW engines run out and a new model needs to be developed.
In the past they have used engines from Rover, Triumph and even Fiat. They use the most suitable available for the given need.
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