PH thoughts on this 'Advanced' driver's dashcam vids?
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R_U_LOCAL said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
25NAD90TUL said:
Cheers. Goes to find something more interesting to do.
wolves_wanderer said:
When I have cars following me I pull to the side of the road and wait until they've passed before reversing into my drive. I'm not an advanced driver though so obviously I'm wrong.
You're not wrong, there's nothing advanced about those videos.The more you watch them the more it looks like a 'crash for cash' attempt...'He ran right up the back of me!'
sideways20vT said:
I'd have to agree - but without seeing when the "advanced" driver indicates it's hard to tell. I'd be inclined to pull up and wait for the cars behind to pass before starting to reverse.
Even if he'd started to indicate well in advance, his drive is JUST past a turning - so they'd probably assume he was going to turn into there. Except he didn't. Now he's just stopped dead. WTF is this guy doing? Oh, right, he's trying to reverse into that drive...martine said:
There's one thing worse than a pompous Advanced Driver...that's a pistonheads user who slags of those that have taken further driver training when often they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about...
Specifically who is that aimed at? Or is it a generalisation?martine said:
There's one thing worse than a pompous Advanced Driver...that's a pistonheads user who slags of those that have taken further driver training when often they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about...
Really? And that's worse than an 'Advanced driver' who posts other people's mistakes on YT and blames them when clearly it is the poster who is to blame?'they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about'
Really? Apologies for not being a member of your 'back-slappers' club, but it offers no certificates to go with the others I already have...An observation is an observation and what you see here is one, and a good one at that. You have not done yourself many favours with this post have you?
I dunno, these 'advanced' drivers...Perhaps you'll link to this thread in AD section of PH, see what reaction you get.
Edited by 25NAD90TUL on Sunday 17th August 17:17
martine said:
There's one thing worse than a pompous Advanced Driver...that's a pistonheads user who slags of those that have taken further driver training when often they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about...
Would you care to ellaborate on this?And state why those videos ARE what 'advanced driving' is about?
Further, are you going to state your opinion on the videos? Or is that beyond your current scope of comment?
To me, from a certificated Advance Driving viewpoint, the video poster has made a complete hash of that manouvre and then blamed others, is this not your view? What is your view? Or can you not express that being as it's a member of your elite driving club?
How long before the YT videos are removed? I'll take bets it won't be long, are these vids going to be shown at South Yorks local group as someone else suggested?
Edited by 25NAD90TUL on Sunday 17th August 20:13
Just because he has bothered to take extra training, and has become chairman of his local group via default (Longest membership) or through a series of funny handshakes, doesn't him right. I am an advanced driver, although mine is through work rather than IAM, and part of that is accepting when you make a mistake and learning from it. Not putting a video of it on the interweb and blaming others for it.
25NAD90TUL said:
Really? And that's worse than an 'Advanced driver' who posts other people's mistakes on YT and blames them when clearly it is the poster who is to blame?
'they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about'
Really? Apologies for not being a member of your 'back-slappers' club, but it offers no certificates to go with the others I already have...An observation is an observation and what you see here is one, and a good one at that. You have not done yourself many favours with this post have you?
I dunno, these 'advanced' drivers...Perhaps you'll link to this thread in AD section of PH, see what reaction you get.
I have get frustrated by people (not necessarily you) who have all sorts of ideas about what advanced driving is (and the IAM) who are often speaking from ignorance. It seems to be the ones who attack are the ones least likely to have git involved. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of pedants and old-fashioned views in the IAM but like any group of 90,000+ members you get all sorts!'they have no idea what advanced driving is really all about'
Really? Apologies for not being a member of your 'back-slappers' club, but it offers no certificates to go with the others I already have...An observation is an observation and what you see here is one, and a good one at that. You have not done yourself many favours with this post have you?
I dunno, these 'advanced' drivers...Perhaps you'll link to this thread in AD section of PH, see what reaction you get.
Edited by 25NAD90TUL on Sunday 17th August 17:17
Rather than focus on these minority (and I really think they are), why not congratulate those who have realised there is more to driving and are keen to learn new techniques and improve their driving further? It does take a big leap sometimes to admit there might, just might, be other ways of driving...nearly everyone who hasn't taken further training thinks they are better than they actually are. It's even been the subject of research...look up 'Dunning-Kruger' affect if you're not already familiar.
martine said:
I have get frustrated by people (not necessarily you) who have all sorts of ideas about what advanced driving is (and the IAM) who are often speaking from ignorance. It seems to be the ones who attack are the ones least likely to have git involved. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of pedants and old-fashioned views in the IAM but like any group of 90,000+ members you get all sorts!
Rather than focus on these minority (and I really think they are), why not congratulate those who have realised there is more to driving and are keen to learn new techniques and improve their driving further? It does take a big leap sometimes to admit there might, just might, be other ways of driving...nearly everyone who hasn't taken further training thinks they are better than they actually are. It's even been the subject of research...look up 'Dunning-Kruger' affect if you're not already familiar.
I've taken considerable amounts of further driver training and can see no cause for congratulation in those videos.Rather than focus on these minority (and I really think they are), why not congratulate those who have realised there is more to driving and are keen to learn new techniques and improve their driving further? It does take a big leap sometimes to admit there might, just might, be other ways of driving...nearly everyone who hasn't taken further training thinks they are better than they actually are. It's even been the subject of research...look up 'Dunning-Kruger' affect if you're not already familiar.
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