£20k - M3 or Cayman S?
Discussion
vinnie83 said:
The Cayman is a more nimble car. By no means is it a full on 'better' car.
I have driven pretty much every version of the 911, Cayman, and Boxster since 2007 (various courtesy cars) and can confidently say the 911 is the 'better' car.
But it is nowhere near as nimble and easy to throw around as the Cayman.
The Cayman looks significantly less impressive, sounds less so, is slower in real world driving. The new Cayman I will retract my comment on the looks, but the Cayman at this budget, IMO, looks very uninteresting.
Thanks for the comments. Where would your money be around the 20k mark for a powerful car that can make you smile and drives well?I have driven pretty much every version of the 911, Cayman, and Boxster since 2007 (various courtesy cars) and can confidently say the 911 is the 'better' car.
But it is nowhere near as nimble and easy to throw around as the Cayman.
The Cayman looks significantly less impressive, sounds less so, is slower in real world driving. The new Cayman I will retract my comment on the looks, but the Cayman at this budget, IMO, looks very uninteresting.
cerb4.5lee said:
The Cayman for me a little more sense of occasion but agree the V8 in the M3 is something special although the M3 can feel ordinary day to day and be ready to live at your local petrol station!
Both lovely motors though so either way its a positive.
Agree - I did like being in the Cayman and any driving in it was good. However, you needed to remind yourself in the M3 using the loud peddle Both lovely motors though so either way its a positive.
On balance I would say the M3 probably gets my vote.
vinnie83 said:
The Cayman is a more nimble car. By no means is it a full on 'better' car.
I guess it's just a matter of how you value different elements of a car's performance. For me, the Cayman is a significantly better drivers' car; for others it may not be. I think Porsche's cars peaked with the 986 and 996 though, I'd take either over their replacements, so maybe I'm just odd.
Davey S2 said:
Don't buy a cayman unless it has a full OPC (Porsche) warranty as it has the potential to cost you not far off 50% of your budget on an engine rebuild if you get thhe dreaded scored cylinders /VOE.
Brilliant cars though.
Wow, thanks for the heads up. At my budget it won't stretch to one with an OPC warranty Brilliant cars though.
paulmoonraker said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The Cayman for me a little more sense of occasion but agree the V8 in the M3 is something special although the M3 can feel ordinary day to day and be ready to live at your local petrol station!
Both lovely motors though so either way its a positive.
Agree - I did like being in the Cayman and any driving in it was good. However, you needed to remind yourself in the M3 using the loud peddle Both lovely motors though so either way its a positive.
On balance I would say the M3 probably gets my vote.
ORD said:
Any £50k car will have the ability to throw up that kind of cost.
If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and f
k the whole engine to get to that kind of money.
There's a fairly regular poster on here with a horror story about a Cayman that would make me think twice.If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and f
k the whole engine to get to that kind of money.Fittster said:
ORD said:
Any £50k car will have the ability to throw up that kind of cost.
If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and fk the whole engine to get to that kind of money.
There's a fairly regular poster on here with a horror story about a Cayman that would make me think twice.If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and f
k the whole engine to get to that kind of money.
and back to back ORD said:
Fittster said:
ORD said:
Any £50k car will have the ability to throw up that kind of cost.
If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and fk the whole engine to get to that kind of money.
There's a fairly regular poster on here with a horror story about a Cayman that would make me think twice.If you research the risks with 1st gen Caymans, they are there but they aren't very big. Scored bores is not a 10k repair, by the way! You'd need to lose the IMS and f
k the whole engine to get to that kind of money.8K engine rebuild. 50K on the clock and 4 years old.
Maybe there are 50 lucky owner, who knows? Maybe Porsche but they aren't going to say what percentage of their engines go bang.
Actually the lucky owner of the 8K bill has already posted on the thread and advised getting an OPC warranty if you go for a Cayman.
Edited by Fittster on Monday 18th August 16:46
kambites said:
To be fair, the M3 also has potential for significant bills. Neither is a car to be run on a shoestring.
Nothing like the possible cost of a rebuild on the Cayman. The engine and drive train in the M3 is very reliable.O/P google scored bores on Porsche engines. The risk increases with the bore size, so 911's are in fact more vulnerable. Hartech have a good thorough write up on their web site.
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