RE: RHD Ford Mustang begins testing
Discussion
croyde said:
Matt, you are disagreeing with what I said but I did say that the interior of my 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis is well put together and doesn't creak, groan or rattle just like my BMW, normally the yard stick for car interiors, well up to 1998 that is 
I like your Mustang interior but having been in a 2011 Charger and a 2011 Camaro, I have to say that their interiors come nowhere near your car and that I'd rather have my E36 as the benchmark or the pic posted above.
People see my car and I see out of it but, unless I'm parked, I don't really notice the interior so plain and simple is nice especially if it saves me money. As for toys, again I play with them for a bit when first purchased then I prefer to just drive.
Yes, I hear you and also acknowledge that the FoMoCo Panther platform cars are all well-assembled and very, very durable.I like your Mustang interior but having been in a 2011 Charger and a 2011 Camaro, I have to say that their interiors come nowhere near your car and that I'd rather have my E36 as the benchmark or the pic posted above.
People see my car and I see out of it but, unless I'm parked, I don't really notice the interior so plain and simple is nice especially if it saves me money. As for toys, again I play with them for a bit when first purchased then I prefer to just drive.
My point, which I obviously made rather clumsily, is that the interior of the Mustang, Camaro and to a slightly lesser extent Charger/Challenger (corrected in the 2013 model year) are reasonably reflective of what these cars are intended to loosely personify - that being late 60's/early 70's styling and there are nostalgic cues in the interiors of all of these modern iterations.
I'm not so much of a fan of the stripped-down, no-frills ethos -after all, these are all $30k+ cars. Power seats. windows and steering, air conditioning and a decent sound system are very basic market expectations of pretty much any new US suppled car, domestic or foreign, according to our market research.
I kind of like to have the bells and whistles, even if I never or only rarely use them. 8 cylinder Dodge/Chrysler LX/LC cars have a really neat gizmo, which measures and records 0-60, quarter mile and even 60ft reaction times - very accurately too. I loved the idea of it, but didn't use it all that often.
This is Dodge's stripped-down Challenger SRT-8 "Core" - no leather, satnav, sunroof, HID headlights, fancy badging, Harman Cardon sound system and black wheels - still has 470hp 392ci hemi and 6 sp Tremec or paddle-shifted 5-GTronic - and saves about $6k - but is only marginally lighter, so performs pretty much the same as the loaded one.
This is the timer, I referred to:
Matt Harper said:
I'm not so much of a fan of the stripped-down, no-frills ethos -after all, these are all $30k+ cars.
saves about $6k - but is only marginally lighter, so performs pretty much the same as the loaded one.
OT, but Porsche will sell you a stripped down version of any of their cars - all you have to do is avoid the options list, which can easily deplete your wallet by £15,000! An un-optioned car can be quite a lot lighter by the time 30Kg of PDK gearbox, 10Kg of seat motors and 10Kg of bigger wheels have been avoided.saves about $6k - but is only marginally lighter, so performs pretty much the same as the loaded one.
Ozzie Osmond said:
Matt Harper said:
I'm not so much of a fan of the stripped-down, no-frills ethos -after all, these are all $30k+ cars.
saves about $6k - but is only marginally lighter, so performs pretty much the same as the loaded one.
OT, but Porsche will sell you a stripped down version of any of their cars - all you have to do is avoid the options list, which can easily deplete your wallet by £15,000! An un-optioned car can be quite a lot lighter by the time 30Kg of PDK gearbox, 10Kg of seat motors and 10Kg of bigger wheels have been avoided.saves about $6k - but is only marginally lighter, so performs pretty much the same as the loaded one.
I haven't read the whole thread but:
I've always wanted a Mustang, I like yank muscle cars. In fact, I hope to move to the US in a few years and have already looked at how much I need to save to buy a 05> Mustang
However, the interiors on them are pretty bad! Really cheap bargain basement plastics used (and I come from a past of several Japanese cars, which are notorious for their interior quality... )
The Mustangs just ooze cheap feel, but the price in the US reflects that.
Over here however, they wont be so cheap, so they're not going to be as much of a bargain, but still appeal.
I've always wanted a Mustang, I like yank muscle cars. In fact, I hope to move to the US in a few years and have already looked at how much I need to save to buy a 05> Mustang
However, the interiors on them are pretty bad! Really cheap bargain basement plastics used (and I come from a past of several Japanese cars, which are notorious for their interior quality... )
The Mustangs just ooze cheap feel, but the price in the US reflects that.
Over here however, they wont be so cheap, so they're not going to be as much of a bargain, but still appeal.
Edited by Riknos on Monday 25th August 13:11
Matt Harper said:
This is the innards of my 5.0 Mustang Premium - aside from the door caps, which are hard plastic, everything else is where it should be, works properly and fits nicely without any squeaks, gronks or failures (aside from the drivers seat fore/aft motor, which was a pretty easy warranty fix).
Has that got the Shaker sound system with the SiriusXM radio fitted? Does that actually work in the UK or is it only North America?SiriusXM is probably the best hire car add-on I've ever seen - well worth the £3 a day or whatever that Budget charged for it on my Mustang.
Riknos said:
However, the interiors on them are pretty bad! Really cheap bargain basement plastics used (and I come from a past of several Japanese cars, which are notorious for their interior quality... )
The Mustangs just ooze cheap feel, but the price in the US reflects that.
Would you care to expand on this, because I suspect you may be a little out-of-date with your observations regarding "really cheap bargain basement" on current product?The Mustangs just ooze cheap feel, but the price in the US reflects that.
Also 'oozing cheap feel' reflected in US pricing - is $35,000 cheap pricing in your opinion? Just curious, because it may well be, as long as you remember $35k to us is like GBP35k to you...
A shame, because both products are really good.
I've done a lot of work with GM and partners on their On-Star product - it is extremely versatile and comprehensive in what it offers.
I really like getting emails from my Suburban telling me it's oil-life, service status, tire-pressures etc. Very clever stuff and far more to offer than opening the doors if you lock your keys in.
I've done a lot of work with GM and partners on their On-Star product - it is extremely versatile and comprehensive in what it offers.
I really like getting emails from my Suburban telling me it's oil-life, service status, tire-pressures etc. Very clever stuff and far more to offer than opening the doors if you lock your keys in.
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