RE: Land Rover Defender 90: PH Fleet

RE: Land Rover Defender 90: PH Fleet

Tuesday 19th August 2014

Land Rover Defender 90: PH Fleet

The Mini has gone back; time to introduce its PopBangColoured replacement!



The Mini Clubvan served its purpose admirably at PH. It provided fuss-free transport for many across the office (albeit two at a time) and worked rather well as a mobile advert too. But did you ever get the impression it was a little, well, subtle? Yeah, us too.

So it's with great excitement that we can introduce a Twisted Land Rover Defender to the PH Fleet. Like the Mini it has two seats, luggage space behind those and a diesel engine. Oh, and some excellent PH graphics too (thanks to Ian Cook of PopBangColour and Motormode for those). Elsewhere it's just a little different...

Having only completed a few urban miles in the Defender my impressions are fairly limited. Vivid certainly, but hardly in depth. Fortunately our Business Development Executive Sam enjoyed/endured a journey back from Twisted's Thirsk HQ and is most familiar with the car. You can read his thoughts below, along with the full spec for the car. [Matt]


Sam writes: After being picked up from Thirsk station I was dropped off at Twisted's head office with our big shiny grey PH Mini replacement outside. Twisted Automotive owner Charlie Fawcett spent an hour going over the vehicle and taking me on a spirited spin across the Yorkshire countryside. Charlie talked through the addition of adaptive suspension technology and its ability to corner flat with power. Perhaps something to try with a little more confidence!

Superb from PopBangColour and Motormode!
Superb from PopBangColour and Motormode!
Charlie demonstrated the diff lock (a little complicated for 4x4 newbie but I'm sure the rest of the team will put it through its paces) and the handbrake, which isn't a handbrake but instead a rear transmission lock. It's only to be lifted three clicks to prevent cable stretch, as one Twisted owner discovered to their loss...

Having never driven a Defender before it was all very new as I got behind the wheel. The sidesteps and rollcage are a welcome addition as the T40's raised suspension requires a slightly ungainly 'jump-up and twist' entrance. Its driving style took me back to a Transit van I drove in another life due to the seat height, engine and long gear lever. The gear shift requires really careful pedal balancing to prevent a 'clunk' which is all the more noticeable as it feels like you're sat virtually on top of the gearbox.

The driving experience is distinctly raw, which is not an accident. This T40 model is the entry level toy, certainly not the refined daily driver that can be found that can be found from Twisted's higher end offerings. The van hasn't been treated to the sort of work that Charlie would normally undertake, the likes of fixing original factory holes in the bodywork and adding extra soundproofing. Despite Charlie's warning, the first time one of those chunky BF Goodrich tyres threw up a rock was quite a shock; I think my head is still resonating from the impact!

Off-road tyres will be tested as soon as possible
Off-road tyres will be tested as soon as possible
The only additional soundproofing measures at present are extra thick rubber door seals. The doors need a big slam to close, which can be rather inconvenient on the M1 when you notice the shut line appears rather large even for a Defender... The stereo is far from an audiophile's dream and lack of sat-nav had me driving for 20 miles in the wrong direction from Thirsk. All part of the fun, right?

With an uprated exhaust and remap the T40 can easily reach 'safe' motorway speeds and still feels like its still got a bit to give, which is quite unexpected. I'm now also familiar with 'Defender Elbow', only remedied by opening the window. Around town its size, especially the width, takes some getting used to. I was too meek when confronted with a Rolls-Royce Phantom recently, it won't happen again!

First outing for the T40 was to take it down to our vehicle wrappers Motormode in Kent. Ian at PopBangColour had put his artistic spin on the Twisted logo earlier in the week and it looked fantastic when combined with our smiley (as seen on the Mini) in the CAD rendering. Motormode had the whole vehicle done in a morning; top work guys! Its services are highly recommended and only giving them two days notice to design and print the whole job it seems no project is too big. You may have seen them recently working with the Top Gear team hiding Clarkson's keys under an orange felt wrap on a Mk2 Golf.

A great British icon. On a Defender
A great British icon. On a Defender
Having covered 500 miles so far I already have a soft spot for the T40. I love its honest, raw design augmented by the Twisted style which transports it from a farmer's runabout to a head-turning statement vehicle. Pulling up outside my house in a road with two 'standard' Defenders already sat outside had the opposite neighbour taking a pictures straight away. The Landie has already been called 'The Crusher' by my fiance and after a drive down from London to the South Coast has already agreed to add it to our joint Lotto wish list.

There are big plans for this truck, with Charlie promising extra product over the coming months including soundproofing, more leather and extra Twisted add ons... a V8 transplant might be interesting too!


FACT SHEET
Car:
Twisted Land Rover Defender 90
Run by: Everyone!
On fleet since: August 2014
Mileage: 1,579
List price new: £50,265.04 (Price as standard for Land Rover Defender 90 Hard Top XS £27,490. Twisted options as follows: Twisted P6 Performance Upgrade £2,064, Twisted Progressive Suspension £2,544, Twisted by Alcon brake upgrade £3,984, Corris Grey paint to grill, vent and wing mirrors £474, Java Metallic to rear crossmember and mud flap brackets £493.50, raised intake vents and premium side vent £94.80, Twisted oval badges £38.40, gloss black Land Rover bonnet badge £168.60, BF Goodrich all-terrain tyres 265/65 R18 £1,389, Twisted 18-inch White Sport alloys £1,734, crystal headlights with stainless bezels £256.80, LED brake, tail, reverse and fog lights plus indicators £672, Twisted Zinc coated, Java metallic LED front bumper £591, stainless steel A2 exterior fixings £486, front roll hoop in black with light mounts £1,554, tubular rear step and towing bracket £591, Twisted 6mm black coated steering guard £348, black chequer plate top to tubular side rails and stainless fixings £270, Twisted exterior decals and number plates £12.60, privacy glass £474, Recaro leather CS seats and Twisted raised subframe £3,123, 350mm sport steering wheel and shallow Twisted boss £339, centre raised arm rest and grainy leather and silver stitch to cubby box £393, grainy leather and silver stitch to dash tops and grab handle £432, Land Rover oval rear load liner £159.54 and rubber mats £88.80)
Last month at a glance: A Twisted Defender joinsthe PH Fleet, scramble begins for the keys

 

 

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Blackpuddin

Original Poster:

16,509 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Some creative pricing going on in the Twisted brochure. '60th anniversary rear lights' (eh?) £560, black LR bonnet badge £140, black grille 'upgrade' £488 etc etc. What exactly do you get for your £2615 'performance upgrade'? My mate used to get most of the exhaust system for £18 on his Series 2, not that long ago either. This all seems so at odds with the original point of the Defender.

astroarcadia

1,711 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Not keen on the white wheels or graphics but I suppose its a marketing tool and a nice advert for all involved.





Edited by astroarcadia on Tuesday 19th August 14:46

Ryvita

713 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Can't argue with the fact that it does look pretty awesome, but agree with the comment above, that the ethos of a Defender has surely always been function over form.

Now I guess the argument is that all that "function" is still there; why not bring the "form" up to match it? Essentially, on anything OTHER than a Defender this treatment would be absolutely ripped apart as being bling, window dressing, and "all mouth, no trousers".

Conclusion: Can get away with looking badass because it is in fact badass, but you're walking a fine line so don't push it too far. tongue out

jimfoz

66 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I am tempted by a 90 but what gets me about this one is that for nearly £40k, it still looks like a tarted up G-reg from Wheeler Dealers. In some ways its timelessness acts against it in this respect.

DoctorX

7,279 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I like the roll cage and a relative bargain at £850.

I see a Twisted station wagon most days and it is a rather fine looking thing but I can't ever see the point of spending serious wedge on tarting up a Landie - they look cool enough as it is.

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Standard new defender: £23,308.33 Decent tyres £600. Job done. This thing is ridiculously over priced. Also is that roll cage functional or just for looks?

Itsallicanafford

2,765 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Correct me if im wrong but the current defender range dates back to 1983 (yes, engines etc have been updated but its the same car)

I had one for about 5 years in the 90's (E747 AWF where are you now, most likely on a farm somewhere). Loved it at the time, but surely they could have released a new model by now, and i mean a new model, not just a tarted up defender. The cost of this twisted version is just plain nonsense.

sanctum

191 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Quote "Around town its size, especially the width, takes some getting used to."
--You must mean how narrow they are! They're one of the narrowest proper 4x4's you can get, I find my 110 slips easily through city traffic.
Would love to try the Twisted suspension upgrade, as I find I can "corner at full power" with standard stuff too, and "flat" is purely relative smile

Best 4x4xfar!

Turbocharger

137 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Don't be deceived:

Defender 90 - 4.07m x 1.79m.
2014 Renault Clio - 4.06m x 1.73m.

They're tiny, and being square they're easy to park too!

aarondbs

845 posts

146 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Turbocharger said:
Don't be deceived:

Defender 90 - 4.07m x 1.79m.
2014 Renault Clio - 4.06m x 1.73m.

They're tiny, and being square they're easy to park too!
Indeed it is small. My Amarok is 2.23 wide and 5.26 long.

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Defenders look especially menacing when finished in matt black. Just wear a black balaclava when driving one and everyone will get out of the way pronto.

That price escalation above the base vehicle does look steep.

Ekona

1,653 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Utterly bizarre vehicle choice.

thespannerman

234 posts

123 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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So so so so so SO jealous! I live only 30 or so miles from the Twisted HQ and have seen the motors before and really want one! Better than the farm hack I currently use! Hahah

ALBA MELV

387 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Drivers window down and elbow out to save feeling like a sardine while in the drivers seat?

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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oldtimer2 said:
Defenders look especially menacing when finished in matt black. Just wear a black balaclava when driving one and everyone will get out of the way pronto.

That price escalation above the base vehicle does look steep.
I love the idea. Standard old LR 90 £5k. 10 x aerosols of matt black £40, 1 x black balaclava, much more menacing!

samjonno

7 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Wow - Those alloys though!!!!! bow

ajmcampbell

514 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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"It provided fuss-free transport for many across the office"

Am I the only one who immediately thought of this.



roflbiggrin

Back to the point, not a fan of these 'bespoke' Defenders tbh... seems like spending a LOT of money (3x OTR in some cases) to make the car marginally better. Interior upgrades particularly unsuccessful in this respect... sit in one and it feels like a rural Tart's boudoir... *ED check out the gearknob!!!!*


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Macadoodle

828 posts

133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Ooo...I've been hankering after a Twisted Retro Edition for some time now.

http://www.twistedperformance.co.uk/twisted-editio...

Silly money really, but if my Lotto numbers came up, it would join the rest of the silly vehicles in my fantasy garage. Obviously I'd need something to tool about on my country estate biggrin

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Welcome to the club! I also think Twisted charge a huge markup for what they do. A friend has a 110 and it's basically been up for sale since he bought it; very underwhelming.

Ours is an Overfinch, which was basically cosmetic, interior retrim and a remap/intercooler. Most importantly for us, it was an auto.

Since then it has been at other specialists; it has huge Fox shocks and AP brakes. And it's made... well... next to no difference! It still doesn't go round corners or stop, but we'll keep working on it! The mods give it a lot of street cred; it gets a huge amount of attention.

Despite it being, frankly, rubbish, they have so much character it is impossible for them to not get under your skin. Getting a Ford V8 swap soon... cannot wait for 400+ horses!





Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Take it back. There's something wrong with that gearbox from what you say. It's a perfectly good Ford Transit gearbox and you should be able to change gear completely normally.

As others have pointed out, it's actually small not big at all.

Wow, what a £price!!! If you wanted something original and not a tarted up over priced standard 90 then £20k would have bought you a genuine LR 50th Anniversary 90. Complete with 4L V8 and auto box. And THAT'S collectable, appreciating and attracts the right sort of attention.