RE: Lotus Elise R testing at the Nordschleife

RE: Lotus Elise R testing at the Nordschleife

Wednesday 20th August 2014

Lotus Elise Cup R roadcar?

Looks like a race car but running with numberplates; just what is it?



"Don't even ask!" is the official Lotus response to the request for any comment on the car you see here. So we'll have to do some speculating.

See the similarities?
See the similarities?
It's an Elise, we can be sure of that. But the aero addenda is very new for an Elise, a roadgoing one at least. It will look familiar though if you remember the Elise S Cup Rfrom last year. The splitter, side skirts, rear spoiler and even the centre-exit exhaust are identical. Using some well-honed deduction skills we would therefore suggest this may be a roadgoing version of the Elise S Cup R. An Elise Trophy perhaps? Or could GT3 return?

Of course all this conjecture could be entirely inaccurate and it could be a Lotus mule for something different. Much is being made of the fact it lacks the track-spec battery cut-off and extinguisher buttons and, clearly, it is running plates and lights suggesting a degree of road worthiness. But would that aero really be acceptable for road homologation?

We'll have to wait and see, but with the Paris show just a few weeks away it might not be for too long. Until then all guesses, educated or otherwise, are most welcome.

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Ryvita

Original Poster:

714 posts

211 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Now that the Exige name is sitting with a six cylinder engine, there's maybe a hole perceived in the range for the trackday crowd where the old four cylinder supercharged Exige used to sit?

Not a very big hole admittedly, given you can still get that 1.8 supercharged engine in a new Elise, but maybe? Alternatively, new four cylinder engine for euro or US regs?

964Cup

1,443 posts

238 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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"Addenda" is plural.

SmartVenom

462 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Maybe Lotus can no longer afford to tow cars to the track so are getting them road registered to drive there.

renaultgeek

473 posts

149 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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964Cup said:
"Addenda" is plural.
yes, splitter and wing being the obvious 2.

framerateuk

2,733 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Ryvita said:
Now that the Exige name is sitting with a six cylinder engine, there's maybe a hole perceived in the range for the trackday crowd where the old four cylinder supercharged Exige used to sit?

Not a very big hole admittedly, given you can still get that 1.8 supercharged engine in a new Elise, but maybe? Alternatively, new four cylinder engine for euro or US regs?
I agree.

The new Exige has pushed it into a higher price bracket, and it's gotten pretty "serious" from a performance standpoint (not that the Exige wasn't a serious piece of kit anyway!). It's gone from being an Elise with aero to a whole new car, so it makes sense to fill the gap left with an Elise derivative.

LewisR

678 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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964Cup said:
"Addenda" is plural.
Agenda is singular. It is a list (i.e. one list) of a number of task/activities.

The plural of Agenda is Agendas. It's an anglicised version of the Latin words Agendum (sing.) and Agenda (plur.), much the same way as "Opera" is the plural of "Opus" but the anglicised words are "Opera" and "Operas".

jaik

2,002 posts

214 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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LewisR said:
Agenda is singular. It is a list (i.e. one list) of a number of task/activities.

The plural of Agenda is Agendas. It's an anglicised version of the Latin words Agendum (sing.) and Agenda (plur.), much the same way as "Opera" is the plural of "Opus" but the anglicised words are "Opera" and "Operas".
Yes, but the English language is full of exceptions.

Addendum
NOUN (plural addenda /-d?/)

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engli...

cocopop

1,300 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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LewisR said:
Agenda is singular. It is a list (i.e. one list) of a number of task/activities.
Addendum? confused

Eviltad

1,320 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Too many posts about the English language, get back to the car speculation.

ant leigh

714 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Eviltad said:
Too many posts about the English language, get back to the car speculation.
+1
This must have set a new record for %pedant posts

Back to the subject, a little more power for the standard supercharged engine (especially with an increase in peak revs) would be very interesting to me. Would certainly help me to keep the Exige itch under control smile



chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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ant leigh said:
Eviltad said:
Too many posts about the English language, get back to the car speculation.
+1
This must have set a new record for %pedant posts

Back to the subject, a little more power for the standard supercharged engine (especially with an increase in peak revs) would be very interesting to me. Would certainly help me to keep the Exige itch under control smile
Why, the subject of the article is a well trodden, dare I say boring one: yes yes, its another Lotus...looks the same, same wing mirrors, same body, same engine, same stickers la la la la la OH new rear wing?? Zzzzzzz...so much so that the language used in the article is more stimulating.

Sadly this is whats become of the brand.

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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SmartVenom said:
Maybe Lotus can no longer afford to tow cars to the track so are getting them road registered to drive there.
Still can't afford to produce new clams...... 8 months ...... still no car.....

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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If this ends up 100kg lighter than the current bloater, with a revised engine producing 250bhp it'll be very interesting. If it's neither lighter or more powerful, it will be a non-event.

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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HeMightBeBanned said:
If this ends up 100kg lighter than the current bloater, with a revised engine producing 250bhp it'll be very interesting. If it's neither lighter or more powerful, it will be a non-event.
Agreed, I think Lotus should think about consulting Omex, the chaps who did some work on the MG written about here recently:

http://omextechnology.co.uk/page5.html

Proper old school engineering and tuning. Then, the engine would no longer simply be a bog standard Toyota unit, but a specially developed block for Lotus. Take off 100kg as you say, and result!

Can they be bothered?

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I find it interesting that you never normally hear about Lotuses and the Nurburgring, whether that's people taking their own cars there or Lotus themselves....

Then again, that would explain why Lotuses have the world's best ride/handling compromise. hehe

I would have thought Elises would be great and decently fast around the 'ring but I have never seen much mention of times etc.

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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braddo said:
I would have thought Elises would be great and decently fast around the 'ring but I have never seen much mention of times etc.
That's because the world* wasn't obsessed with 'ring laptimes in 1996



  • automotive manufacturer marketing departments

peter450

1,650 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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The cynical devil in my ear has just whispered its probably because they don't go round it very quickly

bobo

1,702 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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what about the evora that was testing there last year? that became a non event ! this is probably more of the same without a different power plant. they cant get any more significant weight off that car imho.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GpeBtn2aD4




Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Wow, and I thought I was a grammar pedant. smile

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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peter450 said:
The cynical devil in my ear has just whispered its probably because they don't go round it very quickly
It's true! They don't have much power on the straights so they'll never match the higher power cars.