Don't mess with nature...

[deltashad]

Wet roads, RWD turbo nutter car... racing an impreza turbo. 18 years old.

[soad]

Yes, the tree was firmly rooted...remarkable how well it held up.

[manmaths]

Coatesy351 said:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/24764701/dr...

I stand corrected. The photo in the article shows it much better. He is lucky to be alive!

[k-ink]

I've always fancied a full welded in cage. Looks even more attractive after seeing that photo!

[TooMany2cvs]

k-ink said:

I've always fancied a full welded in cage. Looks even more attractive after seeing that photo!

It won't make much difference...

[kambites]

I'd avoid wooden lamp posts too. They're basically trees with the soft bits removed.

[TheInsanity1234]

A dab of oppo there.

[LittleEnus]

somynameiswhat said:

It'll buff out

Every time there is a thread like this, someone like you thinks this is funny. It's so old. 'It'll T-Cut out' hahahahhahahah

[McSam]

TooMany2cvs said:

k-ink said:

I've always fancied a full welded in cage. Looks even more attractive after seeing that photo!

It won't make much difference...

Indeed not. Allan Simonsen was in a brand-new factory-run Aston V8 Vantage GTE with a full cage, harness and HANS as you'd expect. He went sideways into a tree at perhaps 80mph, and was pronounced dead hours later.

Doogz is right, hit absolutely any other inanimate object before picking a tree.

[Krikkit]

Another fine example of trees making mincemeat of cars:

[ManOpener]

kambites said:

zeppelin101 said:

DrDeAtH said:

Car made of tin foil?

Designed in the 80s so it will probably have very little in the way of side impact protection.

Even the best modern cars wont fair much better. You need a full roll cage to have much chance against a tree and even then a decent sized tree will win.

Quite. The aftermath of an accident involving a tree and an Audi S2 with a full FIA-spec cage competing in one of the US club racing classes:




Luckily the guy involved recovered and I believe he's back racing now and has been for some time.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 21st August 15:42

[delboy735]

Axe,Chainsaw....landslide.....
probably the only things you should hit a tree with !!

[kambites]

doogz said:

kambites said:

I'd avoid wooden lamp posts too. They're basically trees with the soft bits removed.

I don't recall having ever seen a 3 foot diameter lamp post though.

Surely once the tree is big enough that it ain't going to move, the larger the diameter, the safer it is to hit it because the impact is spread over more of the car? I'd imagine lamp posts are about the worst size thing to hit?

[kambites]

doogz said:

kambites said:

Surely once the tree is big enough that it ain't going to move, the larger the diameter, the safer it is to hit it because the impact is spread over more of the car? I'd imagine lamp posts are about the worst size thing to hit?

Depends, a car wrapping around a tree will dissipate more energy by doing so, than one that hits a tree large enough to prevent that happening.

TBH, I don't ever recall having seen a wooden lamp post at all. Maybe we don't have them here? What sort of size are they?

I suppose lamp posts aren't wooden. Telephone and low-voltage power posts often are. Usually about nine inch to a foot diameter, I suppose.

[J4CKO]

I don't think you could design anything better for annihilating a car than a tree.

[xRIEx]

TooMany2cvs said:

He's also a raging f'kwit who deserves it entirely.

He's in hospital fighting for his life and "deserves it entirely"?!

For drag racing, for thinking he's Billy Big bks when he's got bugger all experience, he deserves a massive shouting, a big fine, a conviction, maybe a ban and a retest, at worst a couple of weeks in the clink; he doesn't deserve to die.

I despair of humanity at times.

[kambites]

He probably deserves never be allowed to drive again; I suppose I could even see a rather dubious argument for a custodial sentence; but he does not deserve to die for it.

[k-ink]

ManOpener said:

Quite. The aftermath of an accident involving a tree and an Audi S2 with a full FIA-spec cage competing in one of the US club racing classes:




Luckily the guy involved recovered and I believe he's back racing now and has been for some time.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 21st August 15:42

Point taken, you clearly do not want to hit a tree no matter what, But this example at least kept the passenger area in tact. Without that cage deforming, all that energy would have gone into the body and crushed that area vastly more.

[TooMany2cvs]

xRIEx said:

He's in hospital fighting for his life and "deserves it entirely"?!

For drag racing, for thinking he's Billy Big bks when he's got bugger all experience, he deserves a massive shouting, a big fine, a conviction, maybe a ban and a retest, at worst a couple of weeks in the clink; he doesn't deserve to die.

I despair of humanity at times.

Now, lemme think...

Is this outcome utterly predictable? Yes, very easily.
Could it have been one HELL of a lot worse, with innocent people being injured or killed? Yes, very easily.

He put himself into hospital. Nobody else was responsible for that. Actions have consequences. Perhaps his mate's learnt that doing stupid st on the roads isn't the same as doing stupid st on videogames.

Hey-ho. Excuse me whilst I don't shed a tear at some eejit being the sole author of his own misfortune.

[P-Jay]

Jesus, I've hit a few on my Mountain Bike, they're unforgiving fkers trees.