RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0: Spotted

[soad]

gregf40 said:

Yes, pler-aaaze!

[Zumbruk]

unpc said:

Wowzers! If ever there was bubble in the making...

In the making? This particular bubble's been inflating for nearly 2 years now. Every time there's a financial glitch, people start looking for alternative asset classes to put their money into, and fine wine, classic cars and similar stuff experience a bubble. As soon as the financial markets pick up, those bubbles promptly collapse, and that's what will happen here. I've seen it before at least twice. I so wanted a 911 GT3 as a retirement present for myself, but they've bubbled beyond my reach, so I'm just going have to wait until the prices come down again. Which they will.

[pSyCoSiS]

Epic residual values!

[Itsallicanafford]

...Oh my giddy aunt!

[405dogvan]

schwarz993 said:

Anyone choosing a 4.0 RS over a CGT needs to have their head examined.

Maybe they want to drive in the rain(*)?

(*) it may be nonsense but there was a story that Porsche told owners not to do that on account of how they'd probably die?

[Dale487]

Soov535 said:

Chris Harris said:

andrew.delamare said:

I bet Harris is kicking himself he didn't hang on

That's incredible.

Nah, I had a fantastic time and made a substantial profit. Couldn't possibly ask for more.

But a CGT for the same money is a no-brainer. One's a carbon-tubbed still-born Le Mans car. The other's a fast 911.

Glass half full. Good lad!

If Mr Harris hadn't sold the 4.0 RS he'd have put about 2000 miles a month on it - using the car as it was designed to - & vastly affected the value.

[green-blood]

Dont forget to pay your Driven subscription boys.

teh manufacturers are as bad, all this invitation only purchasing is not helping, only the favoured, richest, most publicly visible are being ALLOEWED purchase a gt3 4.0, or a P1, or a Lagonda..... which pushes the secondary market into overdrive, feathers the favoured fews pocket even further and on it goes.

This kind of inflation for modern, production roadcars is nuts, they are only rare out of board room decision, porsche could have made the 4.0 in hundreds had they wished, they have no race history, are not particulary pretty and whilst they may have limits of the gods, nobody other than the odd journalist and the selected race driver around the selcted luanch race track will ever use them becuae of the "value"

bring on the bust, soonest, because everything else is being dragged along now too. 360 CS for 150K, 70s 911 into 6 figures for normal stuff. utter madness.

[sixspeed]

But what exactly will trigger this bust?

[D.no]

J4CKO said:

300 odd grand for a 911 that looks a bit like a Matalan trainer ?

Funny how top 911's are allowed to look a bit 1980's naff and everybody goes mad for them

I think there is so much "Emperors new clothes" with 911 and slightly different versions, this is 300 grand and you can get an ordinary one for what, 20 - 30, ten plus times more for the same thing with different bits on, I could understand double or treble, but ten times ?

Suppose they only made a few and there are buyers with that kind of money about, it is kind of good you can buy an expensive car and it end up making you money and cost less than buying an Astra diesel in the long run.

Just goes to show how under-valued the "ordinary" ones are.

[British Beef]

I also dont understand that the new GT3 is better in almost every department (apart from manual box and bbq tendency), according to most the reviews I have seen / read, yet someone is willing to pay nearly 3 times the cost of a brand new GT3 for an "old" GT3 with delivery miles.

This must purely be value associated to the rarity card, as mentioned by Mr Green above.

[mikey k]

Fools and their money springs to mind
(though I can't talk : )

[Dagnut]

Anyone who buys this car at that price probably isn't going to drive it so comparisons to CGT or any other car are irrelevant.If you wanted a car with similar performance you would look at 3.8 with the Sharwerks treatment

[birdcage]

Zumbruk said:

unpc said:

Wowzers! If ever there was bubble in the making...

In the making? This particular bubble's been inflating for nearly 2 years now. Every time there's a financial glitch, people start looking for alternative asset classes to put their money into, and fine wine, classic cars and similar stuff experience a bubble. As soon as the financial markets pick up, those bubbles promptly collapse, and that's what will happen here. I've seen it before at least twice. I so wanted a 911 GT3 as a retirement present for myself, but they've bubbled beyond my reach, so I'm just going have to wait until the prices come down again. Which they will.

Certain ones will. During the last crash you could get cracking deals on cooking 911's and decent cars that were made in large volumes but I think the rare stuff is being bought cash not finance so probably won't be offloaded at the first sign of trouble...

I cannot see an F40 ever being lower in price than it is now for example....I hope it is but I can't see it

[Chris Harris]

J4CKO said:

Don't think his current fleet will be appreciating, FF Dont think so, Range Rover, definitely not, 2CV may make a few quid, but not 100 plus grand.

hindsight is a wonderful thing

2.5 Sport Evo seems to be doing okay. 512 TR? Even the old M5 has moved quite a bit. It's all ups and downs. They all get driven properly. And craving them matters far more than them appreciating.

Liking this crazy market purely because it makes for very interesting pub banter!

[Davey S2]

British Beef said:

I also dont understand that the new GT3 is better in almost every department (apart from manual box and bbq tendency), according to most the reviews I have seen / read, yet someone is willing to pay nearly 3 times the cost of a brand new GT3 for an "old" GT3 with delivery miles.

This must purely be value associated to the rarity card, as mentioned by Mr Green above.

Smaller numbers (especially in rhd), last GT3 with a manual gearbox and the Mezger engine.

[smilo996]

Great way to waste 300K.

Buyers in Chelsea forcing prices up?

PH should do a 300K garage.

[matpilch]

it is the ultimate 911 after all

[Dave Hedgehog]

matpilch said:

it is the ultimate 911 after all

until the next one

[GilesGuthrie]

Olivera said:

Putting your uninformed driving opinions aside, Evo magazine tested both the CGT and GT3 RS 3.8 (no 4.0 available) as part of their 'Best Car we've Ever Driven' article. The GT3 won overall, whereas the CGT didn't make it to the final shootout.

That Evo test was so badly flawed it was ridiculous. E.g. putting a 458 Speciale in a group of cars from the previous decade.

[hondansx]

Dave Hedgehog said:

until the next one

Not necessarily. It could be the last manual, which will be as important as the air cooled factor (note prices of 993 Turbos despite almost 6,000 produced).