What Manual Car.
Discussion
I've owned BMW's in the past, and I've worked for BMW.
The cars just don't float my boat.
I'm not bashing BMW, I wouldn't criticise someone else for having one, I just don't want one myself.
Please don't derail the thread about me not wanting one.
A Porsche is tempting - but they might be a bit small apart from the panamera.
The cars just don't float my boat.
I'm not bashing BMW, I wouldn't criticise someone else for having one, I just don't want one myself.
Please don't derail the thread about me not wanting one.
A Porsche is tempting - but they might be a bit small apart from the panamera.
Snowboy said:
I've owned BMW's in the past, and I've worked for BMW.
The cars just don't float my boat.
I'm not bashing BMW, I wouldn't criticise someone else for having one, I just don't want one myself.
Please don't derail the thread about me not wanting one.
A Porsche is tempting - but they might be a bit small apart from the panamera.
That's fair enough, but I don't see that the others being much cop with a manual 'box, they simply don't suit them. The cars just don't float my boat.
I'm not bashing BMW, I wouldn't criticise someone else for having one, I just don't want one myself.
Please don't derail the thread about me not wanting one.
A Porsche is tempting - but they might be a bit small apart from the panamera.
A big luxury 4 seater just doesn't work with with a manual imho.
Or rather I can't think of one that works well with a manual, and neither can you, hence the post I guess? haha
Even the Panamera woud seem strange with a manual 'box.
Merc still does manuals - but only up to 1.8 petrol or 2.0 diesels (roughly speaking).
Anything with balls or with an amg tag is auto.
Lexus haven't done a manual since about 05.
A search on auto trader far manual jags gives no great joy.
I really had no idea that manuals were so hard to find.
Anything with balls or with an amg tag is auto.
Lexus haven't done a manual since about 05.
A search on auto trader far manual jags gives no great joy.
I really had no idea that manuals were so hard to find.
Snowboy said:
I really had no idea that manuals were so hard to find.
Sadly its been like that for a very long time and if you want a decent engine with a relatively high cylinder count and capacity then they mostly come mated to an auto and there isn't anything wrong with that but there are a select few like you and me that still enjoy a manual.I had a V8 4.8 X5 and I wanted it as a manual but they didn't offer one so I had to put up with the ancient dim witted autobox that it came standard with which was hopeless but what I liked about my old V8 M3 was that it was a rare car in that you could actually buy it as a manual...which I gladly did.
Snowboy said:
Powerful Engine.
A bit of luxury.
4 seats, decent boot - saloon, hatch or estate.
Rear Wheel Drive
I can get this with most mercs or Lexus.
But, the tricky bit is I want a manual gearbox.
(Oh, and I don't want a BMW)
Budget it up to 30k.
New or used.
What's the closest I can get to a v12 engine mated to an s2000 gearbox in a big Merc Saloon body.
To clarify - by Manual I mean I want a clutch.
None of this flappy paddly business.
I want to change gear; not ask the car to change gear for me.
Other than something like a VXR8 it'll need to be a conversion like a Jaguar X300 V12 or Merc E class V8 both of which can be converted to manual easily.There is at least an example of the latter on youtube A bit of luxury.
4 seats, decent boot - saloon, hatch or estate.
Rear Wheel Drive
I can get this with most mercs or Lexus.
But, the tricky bit is I want a manual gearbox.
(Oh, and I don't want a BMW)
Budget it up to 30k.
New or used.
What's the closest I can get to a v12 engine mated to an s2000 gearbox in a big Merc Saloon body.
To clarify - by Manual I mean I want a clutch.
None of this flappy paddly business.
I want to change gear; not ask the car to change gear for me.
Edited by Snowboy on Thursday 21st August 17:55
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxH0rLf2Pw
Impasse said:
Nice car, but actually an auto. But there is one out there...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Really interesting question.
The VXR8 and B7 RS4 also strike me as the best answers but if you want something comfier, how about buying a used manual Merc C250 CDI or E250 CDI and taking it to DMS to get chipped? Their website says they can get 259hp and 413 lb/ft of torque out of that engine.
The VXR8 and B7 RS4 also strike me as the best answers but if you want something comfier, how about buying a used manual Merc C250 CDI or E250 CDI and taking it to DMS to get chipped? Their website says they can get 259hp and 413 lb/ft of torque out of that engine.
Chrysler 300C?
I'm not recommending it. I'm just aware that it could be bought with a manual gearbox and a V8. It'll be crap though, as all luxury saloons are with a manual gearbox. I promise you - passengers hate being shunted along in powerful manuals on actual journeys rather than when taking a like-minded mate out for a hoon.
I'm not recommending it. I'm just aware that it could be bought with a manual gearbox and a V8. It'll be crap though, as all luxury saloons are with a manual gearbox. I promise you - passengers hate being shunted along in powerful manuals on actual journeys rather than when taking a like-minded mate out for a hoon.
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