2 New Abarths - Discount?

2 New Abarths - Discount?

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philmots

4,631 posts

260 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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I think I'd keep the M135 and get the wife a fiesta 125 Ecoboost zetec on a lease at 129 a month inc.

Stenn

2,230 posts

134 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Give the wife a slap, a £500 Micra and keep the 135, surely?

Obviously I'm joking, I wouldn't get 2 cars the same though. What about the Fiesta ST, are they not supposed to be a great drive?

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Years ago I lived near a guy who had two Maserati Mereks (red) and two Lancia Gamma coupes (blue).
The guy opposite me had two RR Vogues and two Escort Ghias, RRovers blue and Escorts met green.

It was wierd how not only did the have two of everything but they were also the same colour.

Anyhow, I reckon if you have two of the same at least there wont be any arguments over who takes out what car.

Personally as was said though, I'd get something like a nice used Elise and the Fiat. Elises lose very little in depreciation and are fairly cheap to run.


Nikko 40691

710 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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I like the Abarths, it's just that terrible driving position that lets them down.

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Nikko 40691 said:
I like the Abarths, it's just that terrible driving position that lets them down.
Yeah, I've heard the seats are pretty high and the steering wheel adjusts for rake only which may pose a problem with my long legs!

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Buy the wife a used 500 get a new boxter.

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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To answer the question, yes, you will get a further discount. Not a great deal but certainly more than you'd otherwise get.


Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Pesty said:
Buy the wife a used 500 get a new boxter.
Isn't a new boxster close to £40k alone?

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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A500leroy said:
I get 34 mpg on track.
Really? scratchchin

bozzy101

506 posts

139 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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If you want it, go for it!

In your position though I'd probably have one of those and maybe a Fiesta ST. At least you can drive the other car if you fancy a change. Maybe even look at the 500 C?

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Martin_M said:
Pesty said:
Buy the wife a used 500 get a new boxter.
Isn't a new boxster close to £40k alone?
Ok newly new then smile

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Pesty said:
Ok newly new then smile
I like your thinking but I can't see it working in practice - need to trade the beemer in if I can't sell it privately - not so sure I'd get a great trade in price against an abarth and used finance always seems to be very high.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Great looking motor. But woeful Interior....borderline with my Saab!!!!

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Visited Arnold Clark Abarth today - the Monza exhaust sounds immense and with the xenons and sabelt seats is the obvious choice. Rough figures were along the lines of £250 deposit and the same per month for a pre-registered example which they charge around £17488 for.

The thing that annoys me about Uncle Arnold though is that the cars in the compound often look pretty shabby. Granted they are awaiting prep and have the protectors in place but I found various chips and scratches on supposedly new motors! The trade off I suppose is that many dealers can't get near their prices because they buy so many.

As for the buying two option - the salesman would have had to speak to his manager, understandably, but suggested a saving of ten to twenty bucks per month on payments - don't know if that's good or not. He did say what others on here have hinted at though, they don't make huge amounts on each car due to the significant discounts offered.

In an ideal world, I would like to have a 595 with the monza exhaust whilst having something a level up (like my M135i) or some sort of big pick-up. Unfortunately, the figures don't stack up against the first option so I'm keeping an open mind as technically two cars isn't a necessity in our household and I may await the new RS and Civic Type R.

I did notice a rather tasty £1k deposit £399 per month on a new subaru impreza sti but I don't want to pay £500 year on tax!

Edited by Martin_M on Sunday 24th August 15:27

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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I thought it would be worthwhile giving a short overview of my dealer experience:

I used Westover Abarth's on-line p/x valuation and enquiry form and after 2 days hadn't heard anything. On the third day, I used their on-line chat service and explained the situation to a representative who advised that she would ask them to call me or leave me an e-mail if they couldn't get me - NOTHING.

I then visited Arnold Clark Abarth in Glasgow - I noticed several brand new Abarths in the compound with the car protection wrapping still on the bonnets, yet one had a chip out of the front bumper and another scratches in various places. The salesman then showed me a 595 Turismo but because it didn't have xenons it wasn't a turismo and must be a mistake from the factory - jeez!When I explained I would probably prefer to buy new due to the marks on the cars in the compound - the reply was that the damage could be resprayed - fair enough but not for me - I want one perfect from the factory. The slightly irritating thing is the salesman didn't show any sort of awareness that a prospective buyer would want a pristine example.

I left uncertain but called yesterday to ask for a p/x valuation and a deal to be worked out for me. I was promised a call back yesterday evening - I have heard nothing since.

I then contacted Bauer Millet Abarth in Manchester who did actually get back to me...only to advice they have relinquished the Abarth franchise.

Needless to say, I give up. I would have liked one but I'm not desperate for one so I'll look elsewhere.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Martin_M said:
Needless to say, I give up. I would have liked one but I'm not desperate for one so I'll look elsewhere.
Good. Don't deal with assholes who seem to think customers owe them a living.

They can, of course, go fk themselves. smile

daydotz

1,742 posts

161 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Xenons are now a optional extra on turismo's they have fitted a TFT instrument panel instead

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

227 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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I have given a final chance to Arnold Clark Edinburgh - he will definitely call tonight with prices - I will let you know lol

w00tman

603 posts

145 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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I've done 18k mile in my Abarth now and it's always been good fun. But (and a big but) the dealers are absolutely awful - 100% dreadful. Me? I'd get a fiesta st if I was doing it again..

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Thankfully over here Donnleys who have abarth for Belfast are superb. They also have mitsubishi/suzuki/VW on the same site which were always well run ships so when they took on abarth 3 years ago I knew it would be good news.

The wife bought one new October '12, fairly big commute and I would steal it occasionally so it's now on 45k, never had any warranty claims/issues at all. and has only lost £3k in that time. Very impressive.

Interior quality is superb, no rattles or squeaks and nothings fallen off. The seat position is a personal thing but I'm italian in my driving settings, short leg long arm, and it fits me perfectly. I have an e92 m3 myself but would find myself grabbing the abarth keys just as often, a real giggle of a car to drive.

May you should give Belfast a shout, only a £99 1.5h ferry away from Scotland and you'll get well looked after.