Is the new Type R concept too much of a boy racer special?

Is the new Type R concept too much of a boy racer special?

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MRobbins1987

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509 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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If the new Type R costs in the region of 30k on release can you see the styling putting some people off if it looks anything like the concept? Are four exhausts excessive? Do we really want a large wing on the back of a fwd hatchback? Is it a bit max power? Discuss...

Petrol Only

1,593 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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In my world yes. But then almost all hot hatches look like chav specials to me. Especially a green focus RS vomit

Iv never been able to get past the image of hot hatches or their compromises.

MRobbins1987

Original Poster:

509 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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It could just be me getting old but we used to laugh at people who put silly bodykits on cars... Now manufacturer's are selling them to us... Hatchback's of old were never so out there...

spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Other hatchbacks are available ...
just filling a market sector for those who do want it.

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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It seems quite hard to buy a subtle hot hatch these days. They all seem to have extra exhausts, skirts, spoilers, huge wheels, etc. I suppose the problem is that standard cars have become sportier looking so the actual sporty ones have had to go rather OTT in order to visually differentiate themselves.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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kambites said:
It seems quite hard to buy a subtle hot hatch these days. They all seem to have extra exhausts, skirts, spoilers, huge wheels, etc. I suppose the problem is that standard cars have become sportier looking so the actual sporty ones have had to go rather OTT in order to visually differentiate themselves.
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hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Both the S3 and Golf R have 4 exhausts. Otherwise though, they are pretty restrained. Does the Leon Cupra follow suit?

It's a good point with the Civic though; it's meant to be a mainstream hot hatch and I do think they risk pushing people towards the trusty Golf GTI. They are better off selling the big wing as an option pack.

It seems their biggest problem at the moment is that they made a rod for their own back by declaring the Civic would be the 'Ring King.

Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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What I don't get is that they style these cars in a way that only 17-21 year olds want to buy them. It's rare though that someone of that age can actually afford one though, let alone afford to insure it.

I had the EP3 Type R and loved it - understated, pretty fast and has aged very well IMO. The new version, whilst being quick, just doesn't float my boat (maybe because I'm now 35!). It's just too "out there" looks wise.

Krikkit

26,524 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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To me there's a very fine line between too much and just plain silly (which is what some of these super hatches should be imo)

e.g. The Mk.2 Focus RS - big vents, spoiler, massive arches etc. Perfect because it's a ludicrous silly car. I take the same opinion of the new Type R - silly wings and aero bits, ludicrous arches etc. It's not supposed to be a shrinking violet, it shouts its ridiculous performance.


andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I actually really like it, and that's a first for a Civic, or any Honda for that matter. I'm 34 if that makes any difference!

Raman Kandola

221 posts

123 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Krikkit said:
To me there's a very fine line between too much and just plain silly (which is what some of these super hatches should be imo)

e.g. The Mk.2 Focus RS - big vents, spoiler, massive arches etc. Perfect because it's a ludicrous silly car. I take the same opinion of the new Type R - silly wings and aero bits, ludicrous arches etc. It's not supposed to be a shrinking violet, it shouts its ridiculous performance.
Very good point and i completely agree but where do you draw the line between?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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MRobbins1987 said:
Hatchback's of old were never so out there...
Renault 5 Turbo
Clio V6
Escort Cosworth
Sierra Cosworth
206 T16 (mildly out there)

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Thing is, people complain incessantly that hot hatches are too subtle, then VW add 4 exhausts to their ranger topper and Honda go a bit lairy with the Type-R and people throw their arms in the air.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I like 'em. There are enough mundane cars about...

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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andrewparker said:
Thing is, people complain incessantly that hot hatches are too subtle, then VW add 4 exhausts to their ranger topper and Honda go a bit lairy with the Type-R and people throw their arms in the air.
The manufacturers could give their buyers the choice. If I was going to buy something like this I'd rather it was indistinguishable from the cooking versions of the car.

LOW4LYFE

159 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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It's not a accident that it's been styled in this way. They don't want old, fat, balding middle aged men to buy one. They want young, cool, hip hoppin kids to buy them.

I like it, good for Honda, they finally made a hot hatch that actually looks noticeably different to the standard car. Too many manufacturers add a red stripe and a badge. Kudos for putting a bit more thought into it.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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LOW4LYFE said:
It's not a accident that it's been styled in this way. They don't want old, fat, balding middle aged men to buy one. They want young, cool, hip hoppin kids to buy them.
Exactly, they've identified their target audience and tailored the car to them. Why wouldn't you do that?

panholio

1,079 posts

148 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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andrewparker said:
Thing is, people complain incessantly that hot hatches are too subtle, then VW add 4 exhausts to their ranger topper and Honda go a bit lairy with the Type-R and people throw their arms in the air.
Exactly this. Classic PH hypocrisy.

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I don't think it's hypocrisy for one person to say one thing and then another on the same forum to contradict it. hehe

MRobbins1987

Original Poster:

509 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Have Honda's designers taken inspiration from this... http://www.barryboys.co.uk/photos20/7109167337a62b...