RE: Lamborghini Murcielago: PH Heroes
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My missus's present to me for my 30th was a track-day at Thruxton which included driving one of these for a few laps... my choice; it was this or the F355, despite Ferraris having their own reputation, there was no question about it, it had to be the Lambo! It was awesome, initially intimidating, but I thought surprisingly manageable round corners considering its size and power. No doubt that intimidation would be very much realised driving it down the shops, but that's not what we're here for... I'd still have one if means permitted...
Exar Kun said:
"Deano" wouldn't per chance be Dean Evans would it?
Seen here in this rather popular onboard video from Bathurst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-8fRyyzBg
Nice!Seen here in this rather popular onboard video from Bathurst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-8fRyyzBg
Eh hemm. The Lambo V12 didn't first appear in the Miura in 1967. By then it was 4 years old and had seen service in both the 350 and 400 GTs.
The Miura was the only truly mid engined fitment of the Bizzarini V12 though. The earlier GTs (and later, Espada, Jarama, Islero) being front engined and the Countach onwards being rear engined (the gearbox is ahead of the engine).
The Miura was the only truly mid engined fitment of the Bizzarini V12 though. The earlier GTs (and later, Espada, Jarama, Islero) being front engined and the Countach onwards being rear engined (the gearbox is ahead of the engine).
I drove one of these at Bruntingthorpe on a Dream Drives day that I has treated myself to for a milestone birthday. It was the first flappy paddle gearbox car I had driven and had been looking forward to it for weeks.
Imagine my huge disappointment at the end of the drive. I'd driven it for a few laps and had given it plenty of beans down the straights and through most of the corners when the opportunity arose. I'd spent the first lap or so getting the feel of the car and pushed on. I was hitting over 150mph on the longest of the straights........and yet it felt dead......it didn't feel like it had any character to me. I have thought long and hard about my feelings on this car and still can't get to grips with why I disliked it so much, even six plus years after I drove it.
It looks phenomenal and sounds good too but the actual driving of it was a let down. Maybe you shouldn't meet your heroes!
I could only compare it against the car I had most experience of at the time which was my TVR 450SE. The TVR had bags of chactacter, was loud, was quick, but no where near Lamborghini quick and every drive was an event, so why did I not like the Lambo?
After much contemplation I came to the conclusion that the Lamborghini was just too competent at what it did. It could corner as if on rails, accelerated at a stupid rate of knots and was incredibly stable at high speeds........and that's why I think I came away feeling numb from the experience. I did not feel part of the car, I wasn't involved, I did not think for a moment that it would spit me off the track exiting a corner under power, it wasn't scary enough or challenging enough to drive to make me respect it.........the Lambo was just too well engineered and competent, it was too German and had had its Italianess engineered out. It did not feel special once in the drivers seat.
My mate and a guy that was in my group of three on the day came to the same conclusion as well. Out of the three cars we each drove that day the Aston V8 Vantage was on the top of the list with the Murcialago and Ferrari in joint 2nd.
My point of view may seem weird to most, but if I were able to spend a lot of money on a car it would not be on this one. If I was was offered one for free of course I'd have it but I'd probably sell it soon afterwards, buy my old TVR back and move to a bigger house!
Imagine my huge disappointment at the end of the drive. I'd driven it for a few laps and had given it plenty of beans down the straights and through most of the corners when the opportunity arose. I'd spent the first lap or so getting the feel of the car and pushed on. I was hitting over 150mph on the longest of the straights........and yet it felt dead......it didn't feel like it had any character to me. I have thought long and hard about my feelings on this car and still can't get to grips with why I disliked it so much, even six plus years after I drove it.
It looks phenomenal and sounds good too but the actual driving of it was a let down. Maybe you shouldn't meet your heroes!
I could only compare it against the car I had most experience of at the time which was my TVR 450SE. The TVR had bags of chactacter, was loud, was quick, but no where near Lamborghini quick and every drive was an event, so why did I not like the Lambo?
After much contemplation I came to the conclusion that the Lamborghini was just too competent at what it did. It could corner as if on rails, accelerated at a stupid rate of knots and was incredibly stable at high speeds........and that's why I think I came away feeling numb from the experience. I did not feel part of the car, I wasn't involved, I did not think for a moment that it would spit me off the track exiting a corner under power, it wasn't scary enough or challenging enough to drive to make me respect it.........the Lambo was just too well engineered and competent, it was too German and had had its Italianess engineered out. It did not feel special once in the drivers seat.
My mate and a guy that was in my group of three on the day came to the same conclusion as well. Out of the three cars we each drove that day the Aston V8 Vantage was on the top of the list with the Murcialago and Ferrari in joint 2nd.
My point of view may seem weird to most, but if I were able to spend a lot of money on a car it would not be on this one. If I was was offered one for free of course I'd have it but I'd probably sell it soon afterwards, buy my old TVR back and move to a bigger house!
IDrinkPetrol said:
the Countach onwards being rear engined (the gearbox is ahead of the engine).
The Countach is most definately mid-engined as are all the later lambo supercars. The engine is between the front and rear axles, the location of the gearbox is irrelevant. Edited by RedBull on Thursday 28th August 07:53
Thermonuclear said:
stain said:
That car has been for sale for ages. Is it the colour or the manual gearbox putting people off?
A genuine front pu on one of these is 18k. Looking at it, it hasn't got the original front pu so could indicate something else.....New front PU you say?
razzle99 said:
That flat grey one looks absolutely stunning ! I'm also with the other posters who like the green on the one for sale tho..
Does look rather lovely but it is minus it's door mirrors. Unless they are in the boot, that is £28,000 at Graypaul right there (if my evo fast fleet memory serves me right)! Defenitely not for the light in wallet.Gorbyrev said:
Does look rather lovely but it is minus it's door mirrors. Unless they are in the boot, that is £28,000 at Graypaul right there (if my evo fast fleet memory serves me right)! Defenitely not for the light in wallet.
If that's true, that is absolutely ridiculous 
Even if it was in my garage following a £40m+ Lottery win I wouldn't pay that. No way, never!
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