RE: Audi RS6 Avant: PH Fleet
Discussion
Fastdruid said:
Does it look chavvy? I don't think so.
Not chavvy perhaps - but somewhere between a van and a hearse and it does spoil the lines of the car (you may not care but it DOES do it)It's not like we live in Nevada - it's not like the sun is relentlessly streaming down upon us here in the UK
Also - the last car I drove with that level of tints just felt 'colder' - it always felt like it was going to rain sitting in it - I just do not understand why people do it (and it's generally advertised as 'privacy glass' which I think means they're aiming for people's vanity and not any practical benefit)
405dogvan said:
Fastdruid said:
Does it look chavvy? I don't think so.
Not chavvy perhaps - but somewhere between a van and a hearse and it does spoil the lines of the car (you may not care but it DOES do it)It's not like we live in Nevada - it's not like the sun is relentlessly streaming down upon us here in the UK
Also - the last car I drove with that level of tints just felt 'colder' - it always felt like it was going to rain sitting in it - I just do not understand why people do it (and it's generally advertised as 'privacy glass' which I think means they're aiming for people's vanity and not any practical benefit)
Each to their own, my experience of them in a car with young children is that I would spec them if I was going for a new car. If I was single/childless I wouldn't bother.
Does it really ruin the lines?
Oh and in case you were confused, this is a hearse. Note that it has no "privacy glass"
With the current 10k discount on offer and a sensible 3.5k worth of options you can do the RS6 thing for around 70k, they are very well equipped as standard to be fair.
I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
Wills2 said:
With the current 10k discount on offer and a sensible 3.5k worth of options you can do the RS6 thing for around 70k, they are very well equipped as standard to be fair.
I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
I'm happy to disagree on car choices, however when spending this much on a car even on PCP, why on Earth would anyone not just spend the few quid extra and have the car they'd love to have rather than a competitor's model which works out slightly cheaper.I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
Surely nobody maxes themselves out on monthly payments at this level - do they?
jamieduff1981 said:
I'm happy to disagree on car choices, however when spending this much on a car even on PCP, why on Earth would anyone not just spend the few quid extra and have the car they'd love to have rather than a competitor's model which works out slightly cheaper.
Surely nobody maxes themselves out on monthly payments at this level - do they?
I agree. Cheaper on a per month basis but come to the end of the PCP and the residual value over the GFMV will likely be higher too so the E63 and M5 will likely turn out no cheaper than the RS6. Surely nobody maxes themselves out on monthly payments at this level - do they?
Mercedes run their GFMV's very close to the bone that's why their finance deals are often so great
NomduJour said:
Coddy85 said:
I don't understand why people would spend £100k on a Range Rover. The RS6 will be better built, faster, better on fuel, cheaper to service and hold residual higher
I'll give you "faster".Bottom of the recent What Car (or maybe Auto Express) survey - new Range Rover
Maldini35 said:
Try looking at the reliability record of recent Range Rover products.
Bottom of the recent What Car (or maybe Auto Express) survey - new Range Rover
Warranty Direct list the RS6 as Britian's least reliable car. The problem is that instead of focussing on quality engineering, manufacturers these days pile-on the gimmicks to sell their cars.Bottom of the recent What Car (or maybe Auto Express) survey - new Range Rover
In the case of the Range Rover, it's no good having a fancy wading sensor and a 21 speaker surround sound system if the air suspension's failed and you're sat on the bump stops in the middle of nowhere...
'the Reliability Index figure combines several elements - cost, inconvenience and rate of failure'
I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
karma mechanic said:
'the Reliability Index figure combines several elements - cost, inconvenience and rate of failure'
I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
The thing is, if you're spending this much on a car (especially an estate), you don't expect / want it to be anywhere near the bottom of the pile in terms of anything to do with quality, reliability etc.I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
Clivey said:
karma mechanic said:
'the Reliability Index figure combines several elements - cost, inconvenience and rate of failure'
I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
The thing is, if you're spending this much on a car (especially an estate), you don't expect / want it to be anywhere near the bottom of the pile in terms of anything to do with quality, reliability etc.I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
jamieduff1981 said:
Clivey said:
karma mechanic said:
'the Reliability Index figure combines several elements - cost, inconvenience and rate of failure'
I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
The thing is, if you're spending this much on a car (especially an estate), you don't expect / want it to be anywhere near the bottom of the pile in terms of anything to do with quality, reliability etc.I guess that's why the ones near the bottom are expensive cars, and the ones near the top are cheapo cars. There are also those that go wrong a lot or a little, but you'll have to expand each individual entry to see the breakdown.
If I wanted comfort I'd rather have a big Citroen.
jamieduff1981 said:
And yet the motoring press (and most of Pistonheads) fawns over Mercedes latest Magic Body Control describing how vastly superior it is to a car on springs and normal dampers. Sure there are plenty who notice that such a car will not be easy to keep on the road in 15 years' time, but that doesn't really matter when What Car magazine has persuaded the first owners to shun inherently more reliable technologies in favour of the latest gizmos and gadgets.
Precisely. 10-year old CLs were too complicated for their own good, let alone brand new ones. The way things are going, those of us that currently buy c7-10 year-old cars to get more "bang for buck" are going to have to look at other options in the future. - CH already knows how much an S4's DSG 'box costs... Clivey said:
Maldini35 said:
Try looking at the reliability record of recent Range Rover products.
Bottom of the recent What Car (or maybe Auto Express) survey - new Range Rover
Warranty Direct list the RS6 as Britian's least reliable car. The problem is that instead of focussing on quality engineering, manufacturers these days pile-on the gimmicks to sell their cars.Bottom of the recent What Car (or maybe Auto Express) survey - new Range Rover
In the case of the Range Rover, it's no good having a fancy wading sensor and a 21 speaker surround sound system if the air suspension's failed and you're sat on the bump stops in the middle of nowhere...
The newer C6 RS6 is very reliable.....I'd expect the C7 to be the same of not better.
ChrisRS6 said:
You will find the warranty direct info is for the older C5 RS6.
The newer C6 RS6 is very reliable.....I'd expect the C7 to be the same of not better.
No, it's grouped the C5 and C6 together and possibly the C7 as well. It covers 2002-2011 with an average age of 6.65 years.The newer C6 RS6 is very reliable.....I'd expect the C7 to be the same of not better.
Fastdruid said:
ChrisRS6 said:
You will find the warranty direct info is for the older C5 RS6.
The newer C6 RS6 is very reliable.....I'd expect the C7 to be the same of not better.
No, it's grouped the C5 and C6 together and possibly the C7 as well. It covers 2002-2011 with an average age of 6.65 years.The newer C6 RS6 is very reliable.....I'd expect the C7 to be the same of not better.
But Britain’s Land Rover is the least reliable car on the road, according to a study of used vehicles.
The study found 71 per cent of Land Rovers between three and ten years-old would break down at least once a year a figure described in the report as ‘shocking’.
The report, by consumer experts What Car? and repair-cover firm Warranty Direct, is based on 50,000 extended warranty policies on used cars between three and ten years old.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179067/La...
Or perhaps you prefer the US JD Power survey:
Some things never change. Lying politicians, for example. But also the JD Power Long-Term Vehicle Dependability Study, which was just released for 2013. Like always, Lexus and Lincoln were near the top.
What your local news probably didn’t cover, however, is another aspect of the JD Power survey that never changes: Land Rover’s position. You see, for the umpteenth year running, Land Rover displayed its unending commitment to quality by finishing dead last.
Most people love Land Rover - me included (I have an old series 3). It's a great british brand but it appears the engineering on the new cars just isn't good enough - especially for the price premium.
Just read through this thread and end up slightly baffled as to what's so difficult to understand. It's a brand new car at the top of it's range, with a big petrol engine and twin blowers. Hardly likely to be budget motoring is it? You buy one because it's nice to look at and genuinely a nice place to be, laugh out loud quick, as well as incredibly practical when you need to move people/stuff/dogs from A to B. Yes we all know it will be new Ferrari levels of depreciation, but life is short.
jamieduff1981 said:
Wills2 said:
With the current 10k discount on offer and a sensible 3.5k worth of options you can do the RS6 thing for around 70k, they are very well equipped as standard to be fair.
I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
I'm happy to disagree on car choices, however when spending this much on a car even on PCP, why on Earth would anyone not just spend the few quid extra and have the car they'd love to have rather than a competitor's model which works out slightly cheaper.I would love one and yes I'd have privacy glass! Only issue is at 70k it's still 10k in and £800 a month which doesn't stack up against the deals on the M5 or e63.
Surely nobody maxes themselves out on monthly payments at this level - do they?
I know of other people that looked at the RS6 but again chose an M5 as the gap was too wide to justify, most people I know have a limit/barrier that they are willing to pay whether it's real or psychological.
Like I said I would love an RS6 but they're too rich for me.
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