E petition to try and sort out No tax disc mess

[m8rky]

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-gu... It really isn't hard to understand, monthly VED will attract the same 5% levy that paying bi-annually does.

[kambites]

I prefer the new system.

I'll happily lose the odd month of tax when I swap cars in order to avoid having a bloody great piece of paper stuck to my windscreen all the time.

[samyalson]

Yeah an e-petittion will really make things happen......

[t400ble]

kambites said:

I prefer the new system.

I'll happily lose the odd month of tax when I swap cars in order to avoid having a bloody great piece of paper stuck to my windscreen all the time.

For me i'm happy to pay monthly

Its all good from me and gets a thumbs up

[Prawnboy]

kambites said:

I prefer the new system.

I'll happily lose the odd month of tax when I swap cars in order to avoid having a bloody great piece of paper stuck to my windscreen all the time.

you know the perforated bit makes it smaller

[55palfers]

Do away with Road Tax altogether (save a fortune on admin) and put the tax on fuel.
Much fairer as those who drive high miles pay the most.
System already exists to collect tax so it should be simple.

[chrispmartha]

Yeah, an E Petition, that'll show em!

[paulshears]

55palfers said:

Do away with Road Tax altogether (save a fortune on admin) and put the tax on fuel.
Much fairer as those who drive high miles pay the most.
System already exists to collect tax so it should be simple.

I'd have preferred that

[kambites]

paulshears said:

55palfers said:

Do away with Road Tax altogether (save a fortune on admin) and put the tax on fuel.
Much fairer as those who drive high miles pay the most.
System already exists to collect tax so it should be simple.

I'd have preferred that

Me too, but the hauliers wouldn't have liked it much.

[djdestiny]

kambites said:

Me too, but the hauliers wouldn't have liked it much.

They probably would, because then all the foreign trucks nicking their work on our roads would be paying towards it too

[Hugo a Gogo]

sell your cars near the end of the month
buy your cars near the beginning of the month

oh, and try not to change cars so often

[AnotherClarkey]

One month of VED - 84p. Don't think I would be that bothered.

[Monty Python]

Waste of time. If (and I doubt) it reaches the required number of signatures to be discussed in parliament, it'll be months before that happens, then months before anything happens so by the time anything does happen you'll have forgotten about it.

[ging84]

this petition jumps the gun slightly

perhaps we should wait to find out how the system will work in practice, because certain things about it don't quite add up and i think there is a lot of assumption going around

The new guidance states that you will need to get the vehicle taxed before you can use it, but how will this actually work in practice under the new system, but i have yet to read anything definitive that suggests that payment will be based from the start of the current month, for a vehicle which is still currently showing taxed, as it would do, as the paper process of transferring registered keep is always going to be behind.
We might find that the new system will let you seamlessly take over the tax without paying for the current month that is already paid

[kambites]

ging84 said:

The new guidance states that you will need to get the vehicle taxed before you can use it, but how will this actually work in practice under the new system,

You buy the car, you phone the DVLA 24x7 hotline to get it taxed, you drive it home. Of course this must mean you can tax a car which shows up as registered to someone else on the database, which is a bit odd. The seller must cancel their tax within a certain period of time.

So basically it ends up working the same as insurance typically does today.

Edited by kambites on Friday 29th August 09:50

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

Jooks said:

I don't see what the fuss is about.

In other words, you don't really understand the issue with new system.

The issue is, each time a car is sold, our glorious leaders get a FULL months tax (unless the car is sold on the last day of the month).
The seller get's a refund to the start of the NEXT full month.
The buyer can only buy tax from the BEGINNING of the current month.
See the problem now?

Of course, if you drive a girls car you probably wont be too bothered. But if you're on Pistonheads, you're probably a bad boy driving around in something more hideously polluting with a high tax band. If you're in the highest band, that's £41 each time a car is sold in free tax for the Government.
The only option now is to sell cars on, or near the last day of the month.

[Dammit]

Or man up- it's a round of drinks ffs.

[wolves_wanderer]

kambites said:

I prefer the new system.

I'll happily lose the odd month of tax when I swap cars in order to avoid having a bloody great piece of paper stuck to my windscreen all the time.

Me too.

[kambites]

If people want to protest against a "cost to change" tax, stamp duty would be a rather more sensible thing to complain about.

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

Dammit said:

Or man up- it's a round of drinks ffs.

OK.
Let me ask you this - if you had to pay a tax to sell your car privately, let's say £20. Would that be fine too?

Yes or No? - cos it's exactly the same thing.

I mean, it's only a round of drinks after all...right?