Take out finance or save up and just buy outright

Take out finance or save up and just buy outright

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Shaoxter

4,071 posts

124 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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DJP said:
lauda said:
And where do you live whilst you're saving for the house?
Well, back in the day, one was something of a young entrepreneur and saved plenty of money while living with Mummy and Daddy.

I then bought my first house, sans mortgage, and saved for my next property whilst living there...

Can be done, y'know. yes
Ah yes... bank of mummy and daddy wink
Nice of them to not charge you rent while you were living there smile

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Lee540 said:
It's like saving up except you can have it now!
It's like buying one car, but paying for two!!
Depends on what rate of interest you get. You can get loans at 4.1% APR at the moment.

DJP

1,198 posts

179 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Ah yes... bank of mummy and daddy wink
Nice of them to not charge you rent while you were living there smile
LOL! biggrin

The politics of envy is writ large on this thread.

I'll bet your rented car is worth more than my owned one.

And doubtless your rented house, too.

lauda

3,475 posts

207 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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DJP said:
lauda said:
If living at home with your mum and dad whilst a working adult is a desirable, or indeed, available, option.
And, if you ain't, can you really afford to rent a car on finance?

In addition to your other living expenses.
Sorry, not sure I follow your question. I thought we were talking about the viability for most people of buying a house outright.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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mp3manager said:
Nervasport said:
ikarl said:
Why do you keep saying meggy?? What's a meggy?
Short for megane
By one letter. laugh

I save up for the things I buy, including the house, only a mug pays interest.
Did you really just write that?

It might be nice to be in a postion to be able to save enough to buy a house without a mortage, but lets not pretend it's an option to the majority of people.

To suggest that everyone with a mortage is a mug marks you out as a **** wink

M1KEY

1,092 posts

284 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Good to see all the usual balanced responses to borrowing on PH. Of course everyone on here pays for everything cash!

As a more real world example you can borrow £5000 from Tesco over 3 years and repay £5440. That's costing you £12 a month not to have to wait and save!

surveyor

17,814 posts

184 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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M1KEY said:
Good to see all the usual balanced responses to borrowing on PH. Of course everyone on here pays for everything cash!

As a more real world example you can borrow £5000 from Tesco over 3 years and repay £5440. That's costing you £12 a month not to have to wait and save!
Exactly. Make sure that you can get out if you have to where's the problem?

DJP

1,198 posts

179 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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lauda said:
Sorry, not sure I follow your question. I thought we were talking about the viability for most people of buying a house outright.
I wasn't asking one, we were talking about whether the OP should get a car loan or not...

Shaoxter

4,071 posts

124 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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DJP said:
Shaoxter said:
Ah yes... bank of mummy and daddy wink
Nice of them to not charge you rent while you were living there smile
LOL! biggrin

The politics of envy is writ large on this thread.

I'll bet your rented car is worth more than my owned one.

And doubtless your rented house, too.
Hehe it's not envy, it's just that not everyone is in a fortunate position to have their greatest expense (housing) taken care of for a few years while they save up for a house.

As always with these topics it's going off course and discussing the merits of renting/buying properties smile

lauda

3,475 posts

207 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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DJP said:
lauda said:
Sorry, not sure I follow your question. I thought we were talking about the viability for most people of buying a house outright.
I wasn't asking one, we were talking about whether the OP should get a car loan or not...
Sorry, the sentence with the question mark at the end tricked me into thinking that you had asked one.

He's already said he can afford the payments so why shouldn't he? Oh yes, because getting back to where we started all this, anyone who pays interest is a mug. And off we go again, round in circles...

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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DJP said:
xRIEx said:
He rents of course. That way he's not paying interest.
DJP said:
Well, back in the day, one was something of a young entrepreneur and saved plenty of money while living with Mummy and Daddy.

I then bought my first house, sans mortgage, and saved for my next property whilst living there... and so on.

Can be done, y'know. yes
Ahem.. biggrin
Lucky you (and well done on the entrepreneurialismship). I'm not as motivated, I just waited for a relative to die.

valiant

10,197 posts

160 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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This thread is useless without Vladimir!


DJP

1,198 posts

179 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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xRIEx said:
Lucky you (and well done on the entrepreneurialismship). I'm not as motivated, I just waited for a relative to die.
So rather a case of lucky you... wink

Muzzer79

9,923 posts

187 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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M1KEY said:
Good to see all the usual balanced responses to borrowing on PH. Of course everyone on here pays for everything cash!

As a more real world example you can borrow £5000 from Tesco over 3 years and repay £5440. That's costing you £12 a month not to have to wait and save!
Quite

And you'll possibly save that £14 in running costs on a newer car.

Finance isn't the devil that some think, as long as it's used properly and in the right circumstances.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Borrowing is going to get more expensive but right now there is a case for taking a loan, as long as it doesn't destroy your disposable income I can't see the issue?

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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There are lots of cars available at 0%, that's less than inflation so you actually pay back less than you borrowed in real terms. No brainer if you want a new car.

To the people boasting about buying houses cash that would be impossible here even over say 5 years unless you were earning £150k+/year and lived in hovel like a hermit and then why would you sacrifice life for a mediocre house when you could easily afford the mortgage on a beautiful home and enjoy life. The same logic is why I borrow for cars, I like new things, I can afford the interest (barely above inflation) and the depreciation so why not?

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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£8000 on a 3 cylinder Fabia?!?!?

Are you on the right forum?

You could, you know, get a good car for that! Tons of interesting metal for £4K

Complete insanity.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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valiant said:
This thread is useless without Vladimir!
Don't worry, DJP is doing an admirable job of standing in for him.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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djc206 said:
There are lots of cars available at 0%, that's less than inflation so you actually pay back less than you borrowed in real terms. No brainer if you want a new car.
It's 0% because there is profit elsewhere in the deal, it's just how they choose to wrap it up in numbers.

oldnbold

1,280 posts

146 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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xRIEx said:
It's 0% because there is profit elsewhere in the deal, it's just how they choose to wrap it up in numbers.
Your right of course, but go along with cash and see if you can negotiate any discount? nono