RE: Renault Twingo: Review

RE: Renault Twingo: Review

Friday 29th August 2014

Renault Twingo: Review

A cute city car with PH potential or an overhyped shopping trolley? We drive the new Twingo



Is a cheap, tiny five-door city car really the kind of machine to excite PHers? Or, to put it another way, who would be interested in a 900kg turbocharged, rear-engined, rear-wheel drive machine from the people who bought us the Clio Cup, R5 Turbo, Megane R26.R and a raft of other affordable, attainable 'hero' cars? All of you? Oh, ok...

Which, I guess, is why Editor Trent was so keen to secure a drive of the third-generation Renault Twingo. We all know what the car looks like after its show debut. Pert, chic and with just enough attitude to avoid 'cute'. But had it been sprinkled with dynamic magic?

So where am I going to put the shopping then?
So where am I going to put the shopping then?
The 1993 original Twingo was an A-segment trailblazer that looked superb and was brilliantly functional. Cheap, too, at around £5,500 (55,000Fr). Seemingly bigger on the inside than out and with a sliding rear bench and less demanding crash legislation, it could easily accommodate four adults and (some of) their luggage. Little wonder Renault sold two million of them and at the peak, accounted for 25 per cent of all European A-segment sales.

Difficult second album
The second iteration, from 2007, joined a more competitive environment - instead of five rivals, it now had 25, and with a more conventional approach it never quite scaled the heights of the original. It did, however, deliver us the first Renaultsport version, with 133hp and a dose of RS sparkle. It was a fun and honest little fast hatch that won a lot of friends if not huge sales.

This version is new from the ground up and has opted for a completely new approach. The rear-engined/rear-drive platform was identified early as a way to get the best package but was considered prohibitively expensive to develop until a collaboration with Daimler, who will use the modular base for both the new Smart ForFour and ForTwo models, was agreed.

Ability to fold seats into a bed about to be utilised...
Ability to fold seats into a bed about to be utilised...
With the powerplant under the boot floor a whole chunk of extra space could be freed up within the cabin. So the whole car is 100mm shorter than the outgoing Twingo but with a 120mm longer wheelbase and a full 230mm extra interior space.

Hold your horses
Two engines are on offer at launch - a normally aspirated 1.0-litre with 70hp and the one of greater interest to PH, the 0.9-litre three-cylinder turbo, delivering 90hp and 100lb ft of torque. Effectively the same unit seen elsewhere in the Renault range, a large number of components had to be re-engineered, including inclining the pistons at 49 degrees to help reduce the height of the engine by 150mm. Front suspension is MacPherson strut, with a 22mm anti-roll bar. At the rear the Twingo utilises a De Dion torsion beam.

The cabin feels light, bright and roomy. You sit a little higher than you might expect, or indeed like, but such is the preference these days and there is no doubt that it gives improved visibility in town. The tiny bonnet (beneath which lurk the battery and fluid reservoirs) is barely visible in front of you.

Has Renault got its mojo back? Here's hoping
Has Renault got its mojo back? Here's hoping
Flexibility and practicality are obviously high priority so you get loads of useful storage bins and cubbies (around 50 litres inside the cabin) as well as a fold flat front seat. The boot gives you 219 litres and if you fold the 50/50 split rear seats down, that increases to 980 litres

Renault has incorporated plenty of 'premium' kit for the Twingo that is not too common in this market sector, parking sensors, DAB, Bluetooth, Hill Start Assist, Lane Departure Warning among it.

On the road the Twingo story has some good and some not so good. The car feels taut and well-controlled although it can crash about over speed bumps in town. Which is, of course, the environment it is really designed for. And there is a fair bit of wind noise at speed. That said, the Twingo makes a decent fist of relaxed mile-munching, and is peppy enough to keep pace on the motorway.

Hint of Renault 5 in rear design...
Hint of Renault 5 in rear design...
Back to front
Renault makes almost no reference to the car being rear-engined in the promotional literature. It certainly doesn't see it as a key selling point. Nor has it tuned the handling to make it feel rear-drive ... in fact the engineers have gone to great lengths to make it feel like a safe and sorted front driver. With some success.

The attentive might notice that the warbly, off-beat engine note seems to be coming from over their shoulder but they would be hard pushed to notice it from the way the car drives. It is competent and safe and perfectly pleasant without ever feeling that it might blow your frock up. The TCe 90 gets variable rate steering which isn't quite as feelsome as the basic setup. It just feels a little bit vague, which, given the remarkable agility and tiny 8.6m turning circle, is disappointing.

In fact, the vagueness isn't limited entirely to the steering. The throttle response is a bit mushy and the engine feels laggy low down in the rev range. The five-speed gearshift is fine but not as sweet or 'snicky' as the best. A six-speed twin clutch is in development and will join the range in the next 12 months.

Cabin sadly inspires use of words like 'funky'
Cabin sadly inspires use of words like 'funky'
It would be nice to have a rev counter fitted to help get the best from the motor - although interestingly, if you have the 'R and Go' connectivity package, you kind of can. R and Go has a universal cradle that turns your smartphone into the infotainment system. A free app enables you to then access car data, navigation, Facebook and such like. It also has a 'virtual' rev counter.

Our test car, however, had the top-of-the-range R Link touch screen which sadly doesn't have this feature, but is slick and intuitive to use with the ability to scroll and zoom as you would on a phone or tablet.

Only way is up
If all of this sounds negative it is only because our expectations - and hopes - for this car have been so high. It is a very fine little car in many ways but there is a sense of untapped potential here that is frustrating for the enthusiast. So it didn't take long for the key question to be asked in the press conference: will there be a hotter version? Ali Kassai, Renault's man in charge of small cars, was fairly unequivocal. "Look at our history. We love our fast cars... and we plan to do something different. We just don't want to talk about it now."

[Mrs Doyle]Go on, go on, go on[/Mrs Doyle]
[Mrs Doyle]Go on, go on, go on[/Mrs Doyle]
Prices for the entry level SCe 70 Expression start at £9,495 on the road. 'Our' TCe 90 Dynamique enters the fray at a heftier £11,695 and there are plenty of options and personalisation elements. The Sport Pack styling, for example, adds £850 and a cool panoramic fabric folding sunroof the same again.

It's a cool little car, the new Twingo. It has a lot going for it in terms of style, functionality and dynamic potential. It's well worth a look if you are considering a city slicker. But is the new Twingo the fast, fun, lightweight joy we all wanted it to be? Not quite yet. Although you might want to watch this space.


RENAULT TWINGO TCe 90 DYNAMIQUE
Engine:
0.9-litre 3-cyl turbo, petrol
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 90@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 100@2,500rpm
0-62mph: 10.8 sec
Top speed: 103mph (limited)
Weight: 943kg
MPG: 65.7
CO2: 99g/km
Price: £11,695 (OTR)

 

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HeMightBeBanned

Original Poster:

617 posts

178 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Très déçu frown

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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How much better does that white one look than the UP/CITYGO/MII range.

Surprised by a twinclutch with the weight and size penalty when the rivals go for the simplier and cheaper automated manual option though they are truly hated by myself and most other people who have tried them so thumbs up for the dual clutch. Just needs to be mated to 130bhp. I'm not greedy just match the last Twingo for performance with a 1.2 turbo and I can see my next commuter car.

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Just doesn't look as good in five door form I reckon. Here's hoping RS can do something entertaining with it!

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Sounds like a good, modern, small car. Much like the Volkswagen Up!

Don't know whether I'd be tempted by one or maybe look at the Dacias instead.

TWPC

842 posts

161 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Hmm... This confirms rather underwhelming reviews (vs expectations) elsewhere on the web.

As Kambites said in another thread & Mr Kassai implies, it's all about the Renaultsport version...

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Sounds like a good, modern, small car. Much like the Volkswagen Up!

Don't know whether I'd be tempted by one or maybe look at the Dacias instead.
Rumour has it that the just departed Twingo is coming back as a Dacia.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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A bit strange since I hear that the VW Up! is great fun to drive and feels surprisingly RWD.

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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I reckon the 0.9 mapped would be good for 105-110bhp looking at how well previous small Renault turbos have mapped.



dlockhart

434 posts

172 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Sounds like it could benefit from a tweak to the suspension on this model.

or someone could try and fit a turbo to the bigger NA engine turn up the power. I've got no idea how difficult that is with the packaging.

thespannerman

234 posts

123 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Just wondering why you'd require parking sensors on a car like this... By the time you've looked over your shoulder you're already staring straight out of the boot!

No, in all seriousness though Renault, build a properly sporty one!

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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thespannerman said:
Just wondering why you'd require parking sensors on a car like this... By the time you've looked over your shoulder you're already staring straight out of the boot!
You can also get a parking camera too.

Kookanoodles

15 posts

129 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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In the French press Renault officials have said that the sporty version will be a GT, not an RS, so it most likely won't be as powerful as the outgoing Twingo RS. I hope that at least they sort the handling to make it feel more like the RWD car it is. There's also been talk of a dual-clutch auto for the standard car in a year, I hope they stick with stick for the GT.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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RS version please! This has so much promise... come on Renault!

Imafreeman

117 posts

224 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Looks like a FIAT 500 with an engine in the boot.

Noesph

1,151 posts

149 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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HTP99 said:
Rumour has it that the just departed Twingo is coming back as a Dacia.
I heard the same rumours, planing to sell them for around £4500. But I wonder how much will dacia strip out of it (I reckon it could end up with the old 1.2 8v 60bhp engine). I thought the twingo being made in Slovenia (IMV / Revoz, they make Adria Mobil caravans as well) I'd thought the cost of labour wouldn't be much different, but with a bit research it seems the average wage in Romania is €395 a month vs €1000 a month in Slovenia.

That said, the twingo ii was based on the clio ii, same as the sandero and duster. Dacia must know that platform inside out by now.

Edited by Noesph on Friday 29th August 16:18

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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This gives me teeny tiny hope that maybe we'll see a new Smart Roadster one day... with a manual 'box this time!

(Hey, look up there... pigs!)

Michael77

55 posts

154 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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So an RS with ~50% more power than the TCe, stiffened up, and a button to turn off the traction control? Sounds like a good recipe for fun.

Frimley111R

15,646 posts

234 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Imafreeman said:
Looks like a FIAT 500 with an engine in the boot.
And 5 doors. Why FIAT didn't make a 500 5dr like this is beyond me.

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Noesph said:
HTP99 said:
Rumour has it that the just departed Twingo is coming back as a Dacia.
I heard the same rumours, planing to sell them for around £4500. But I wonder how much will dacia strip out of it (I reckon it could end up with the old 1.2 8v 60bhp engine). I thought the twingo being made in Slovenia (IMV / Revoz, they make Adria Mobil caravans as well) I'd thought the cost of labour wouldn't be much different, but with a bit research it seems the average wage in Romania is €395 a month vs €1000 a month in Slovenia.

That said, the twingo ii was based on the clio ii, same as the sandero and duster. Dacia must know that platform inside out by now.

Edited by Noesph on Friday 29th August 16:18
The platform has been around for around 16 years, it won't owe Renault anything now so will be very cheap to produce, as for the 8v engine; doubtful due to emmisions and the RFL will be too high if emmisions can be sorted, however I can see the 1.2 16v being used still though, it was only £30 a year in the Twingo.

UnderSteerDan

241 posts

182 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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I've been awaiting the release of the VW Up GT for far too long now...

If (when) a hot version of this Twingo arrives I'll certainly be joining the queue for a test drive.