Mike Brewer's Magic Pockets
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its by far one of the best "car" type programmes out there:
been enjoying car SOS but there is too much focus on the emotional side of restoring a car and quite clearly vast amounts of welding and seriously complex work just appear magically to happen.
still its enjoyable.
But WD rocks and always will. take the profit bit with a pinch of salt...... if you have petrol in yr blood its just fascinating watching the problems being fixed.
as for Mike- it seems just such a lovely chap, I like his attitude and approach.
and Ed- well we all know a man like Ed who is a mechanical god. I salute you sir.
been enjoying car SOS but there is too much focus on the emotional side of restoring a car and quite clearly vast amounts of welding and seriously complex work just appear magically to happen.
still its enjoyable.
But WD rocks and always will. take the profit bit with a pinch of salt...... if you have petrol in yr blood its just fascinating watching the problems being fixed.
as for Mike- it seems just such a lovely chap, I like his attitude and approach.
and Ed- well we all know a man like Ed who is a mechanical god. I salute you sir.
robemcdonald said:
Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real.
I wish people would stop saying this!!If you service your own car do you charge yourself or your wife labour rates? Or course not and that's the point. It's showing what can be done if you're prepared to get your hands dirty yourself. Whenever they use an external company to do work they do include the costs.
I love watching wheeler dealers, even if the work they actually carry out doesn't always add up to their total spend in the end. For instance, not always do they include the cost of spanky new tyres they put on.
Does anyone remember a programme that was called 'race car diaries'?? I think that was what it was called? He built a radical type car in his garden shed after he went through a divorce, so decided sod it, build a race car, then had to hire a crane to crane it over his house once it was built. IIRC, it wasn't that competitive, he made it too heavy and a too long wheelbase. It was a great watch though.
Does anyone remember a programme that was called 'race car diaries'?? I think that was what it was called? He built a radical type car in his garden shed after he went through a divorce, so decided sod it, build a race car, then had to hire a crane to crane it over his house once it was built. IIRC, it wasn't that competitive, he made it too heavy and a too long wheelbase. It was a great watch though.
Devil2575 said:
robemcdonald said:
Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real.
I wish people would stop saying this!!If you service your own car do you charge yourself or your wife labour rates? Or course not and that's the point. It's showing what can be done if you're prepared to get your hands dirty yourself. Whenever they use an external company to do work they do include the costs.
You quoted a small section of what I actually put and then go on to make exactly the same point.
Well done.
robemcdonald said:
Devil2575 said:
robemcdonald said:
Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real.
I wish people would stop saying this!!If you service your own car do you charge yourself or your wife labour rates? Or course not and that's the point. It's showing what can be done if you're prepared to get your hands dirty yourself. Whenever they use an external company to do work they do include the costs.
You quoted a small section of what I actually put and then go on to make exactly the same point.
Well done.
robemcdonald said:
As for the business aspect of the show. Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real. The show isn't about making money though. It's about giving people an idea about how various oily bits are screwed together and what you might be able to have a go at yourself.
Why aren't the profits real?If you bought a car for £500, fitted some new parts yourself and sold it on for a profit would you subtract your own labour rate before working out how much money you'd made?
Devil2575 said:
robemcdonald said:
Devil2575 said:
robemcdonald said:
Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real.
I wish people would stop saying this!!If you service your own car do you charge yourself or your wife labour rates? Or course not and that's the point. It's showing what can be done if you're prepared to get your hands dirty yourself. Whenever they use an external company to do work they do include the costs.
You quoted a small section of what I actually put and then go on to make exactly the same point.
Well done.
robemcdonald said:
As for the business aspect of the show. Obviously labour costs aren't reflected so the profit isn't real. The show isn't about making money though. It's about giving people an idea about how various oily bits are screwed together and what you might be able to have a go at yourself.
Why aren't the profits real?If you bought a car for £500, fitted some new parts yourself and sold it on for a profit would you subtract your own labour rate before working out how much money you'd made?
But to answer your question: If you bought a car for £500 did some minor repairs that cost £250 in parts and then sold it for £1000 you would have made a £250 profit.
If you bought a car for £500, took it to your mechanic (who earns a salary) and he took it to his workshop (which is rented or owned, but powered with electricity and other services) In this workshop he used a series of expensive specialist tools and spent 100 hours fitting the £250 worth of parts that you purchased. If you then sold that car on for £1000 you wouldnt have made a £250 profit would you?
I could be wrong and I might be the only person without: A laser alignment tool, Air conditioning recharging kit ( and up to date certificate, Mig welder, Tig Welder, Arc Welder, Spot Welder, Press, 2 post lift, Air Compressor, plus every other hand tool you can think of, access to a suspicously cheap spray shop and a Bloke called Paul to help out when required.
I'd like a 'Super Wheeler Dealer' where they strip a car COMPLETELY, fix all the buggered bits, paint EVERYTHING, and then sell it as a Super renovation/rebuild at a premium price. Oh another thing. And can someone buy Ed an electric nut runner so he doesn't have to nearly send himself blind with that bloody ratchet wrench !!
robinessex said:
I'd like a 'Super Wheeler Dealer' where they strip a car COMPLETELY, fix all the buggered bits, paint EVERYTHING, and then sell it as a Super renovation/rebuild at a premium price. Oh another thing. And can someone buy Ed an electric nut runner so he doesn't have to nearly send himself blind with that bloody ratchet wrench !!
Why a nutrunner and not an impact gun?Silent1 said:
robinessex said:
I'd like a 'Super Wheeler Dealer' where they strip a car COMPLETELY, fix all the buggered bits, paint EVERYTHING, and then sell it as a Super renovation/rebuild at a premium price. Oh another thing. And can someone buy Ed an electric nut runner so he doesn't have to nearly send himself blind with that bloody ratchet wrench !!
Why a nutrunner and not an impact gun?PaulG40 said:
Does anyone remember a programme that was called 'race car diaries'?? I think that was what it was called? He built a radical type car in his garden shed after he went through a divorce, so decided sod it, build a race car, then had to hire a crane to crane it over his house once it was built. IIRC, it wasn't that competitive, he made it too heavy and a too long wheelbase. It was a great watch though.
I vaguely remember this programme. It was proper reality TV with real cock-ups and arguments etc. I remember a great deal of nashing of teeth over a gearbox not fitting a chassis or something. Very likeable bloke, and like you say, very watchable TV.I also remember a program with a bloke building a car in his house and then having to take the front wall out to extricate it.
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