Nissan Leaf Taxis

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V8forweekends

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124 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Ok, as usual I am late to the party. Went into Nottingham recently and was surprised to be following a Leaf taxi.

I didn't think they would -

Be big enough

Have enough range

Further research suggests that there is a taxi firm in Cornwall running them too.

Still a bit surprised, and starting to think it might be viable for me if they can do it....

Truckosaurus

11,288 posts

284 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Perhaps it is a token gesture to become eligible for some lucrative contract with the local council or similar bed-wetting organisation.

btsidi

246 posts

231 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Why not - the majority of jobs will be around town, and the driver can recharge when not working?

V8forweekends

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124 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Truckosaurus said:
Perhaps it is a token gesture to become eligible for some lucrative contract with the local council or similar bed-wetting organisation.
The ones In Cornwall certainly aren't - but I guess that is highly possible for Nottingham.

mini1380cc

2,944 posts

171 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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btsidi said:
Why not - the majority of jobs will be around town, and the driver can recharge when not working?
If you are running a taxi fleet properly then they are always working.

Fast Bug

11,685 posts

161 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I supply Leaf's to a taxi company in central London. They all have the rapid charge option, so an 80% charge takes 30 minutes at the right charging points.

V8forweekends

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Monday 1st September 2014
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mini1380cc said:
If you are running a taxi fleet properly then they are always working.
This is what I thought, hence my surprise OTH I guess there will always have to be some downtime for refuelling, cleaning, servicing etc so I guess some of that evens out. Even allowing for rapid charging, I was surprised they were viable - maybe they get charged for free or very cheap.

That aside I had (perhaps foolishly) thought they'd be too small inside - like having a five-door Micra or Fiesta for a taxi - is that wrong? are they roomy inside?

Phateuk

751 posts

137 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I'm from the Nottingham area and saw one of these recently. They're run by one of the local companies which appears to be trying to jump on the "green" bandwagon, they also have a "taxi for one" setup where you're driven in a smart car.

wemorgan

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178 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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V8forweekends said:
That aside I had (perhaps foolishly) thought they'd be too small inside - like having a five-door Micra or Fiesta for a taxi - is that wrong? are they roomy inside?
It's more Ford Focus sized.

AFAIK the size requirements for taxi and mincab are not the same in London.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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V8forweekends said:
That aside I had (perhaps foolishly) thought they'd be too small inside - like having a five-door Micra or Fiesta for a taxi - is that wrong? are they roomy inside?
A Leaf is a fairly big car. I'm over six foot and not small and I can sit behind myself with ease. As a taxi I reckon a Leaf would do 70 miles or so on an 80% quick charge. Given most runs are just a few miles in a city it might make sense. They're very efficient when waiting and so on...

I commute in mine - about 35 miles a day. Easy.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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If the charging infrastructure is there I don't see why these couldn't be viable taxis. Despite the traditional saloon or estate minicab, most could probably get away with being Focus sized if they wanted, so the size of the Leaf shouldn't be an issue either.

budfox

1,510 posts

129 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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My '64 reg Leaf is sat on my drive right now. They're a good sized car. Five adults can fit in very easily. Boot is big too.

Wouldn't want to buy a used Taxi Leaf though as fast DC charging is not good for the battery.

V8forweekends

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2,481 posts

124 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Hmmmm warming to the idea of a Leaf by the minute ......

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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It's proper C-hatchback size, so as mentioned above it's comparable to a Focus. However, the layout means you get a bit more room than that, with no tunnel and a nice flat floor.

Around town a 60-70 mile range is a reasonable expectation. It's at its best in town, as its gearing prefers low speed, it manages to recover a lot of energy in deceleration and of course it has no idle burn like an internal combustion engine. This means sitting in the rank waiting for a fare is a lot more efficient and silent. And less polluting, if that's your bag wink. The running costs must be quite tempting too, with skinny tyres, very little brake wear and no engine to service.

I'm still surprised to see any in service as taxis, though. You can quick-charge them up to 80% capacity in half an hour, but that still seems like a fair chunk of downtime.

budfox

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129 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Well I did a LOT of research before buying my brand new Leaf Acenta.

It's on a PCP deal so I don't really own it, and it's going back after four years.

I won't go into the full details, because I did a lot of sums, but over a four year period it will cost me about £85/month more to drive a brand new Leaf than it would have cost to drive my nine year old Fabia Tdi. The Leaf is of course quieter, better equipped, bigger, more comfortable and much more pleasant to own.

We do of course have another car for those longer journeys, but for almost all of our driving, we'll be using the Leaf.

ChemicalChaos

10,393 posts

160 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Fast Bug said:
I supply Leaf's to a taxi company in central London. They all have the rapid charge option, so an 80% charge takes 30 minutes at the right charging points.
And presumably comes with a 4 or 5 figure bill for a new set of batteries very soon afterwards, given what fast-charging does to them?

Fast Bug

11,685 posts

161 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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ChemicalChaos said:
Fast Bug said:
I supply Leaf's to a taxi company in central London. They all have the rapid charge option, so an 80% charge takes 30 minutes at the right charging points.
And presumably comes with a 4 or 5 figure bill for a new set of batteries very soon afterwards, given what fast-charging does to them?
Nope, Nissan are standing by their warranty on the battery for these guys

Spare tyre

9,573 posts

130 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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my friend has one, can charge fairly quickly

i guess a taxi co could have a couple on standby so they can be swapped out

i guess most city centre taxi work is moving very slowly or not at all, so these are ideal

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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ChemicalChaos said:
Fast Bug said:
I supply Leaf's to a taxi company in central London. They all have the rapid charge option, so an 80% charge takes 30 minutes at the right charging points.
And presumably comes with a 4 or 5 figure bill for a new set of batteries very soon afterwards, given what fast-charging does to them?
It might surprise you to find that some testing was involved in the development process hehe