RE: Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Makinen: Spotted
Discussion
JoshyS said:
Are standard cars actually going to appeal to the "Playstation generation" given a large part of the game was about tuning?
I count myself as one of this generation, and the first thing I did when I got the cars I idolized in the games I did exactly what I did in those games, start modifying them.
A standard Tommi 6 would get cained in most events needing a iB license or higher anyway.
I think the people picking up these standard cars are buying them as an investment above all else. Those who want to relive their games will probably be looking at ones with a Stage 4 Turbo kit.
Personally I'd rather have a standard one to see what Mitsubishi thought was good enough from the factory. If I want something tweaking from there I can, but there is something special about sampling a hero car as standard.I count myself as one of this generation, and the first thing I did when I got the cars I idolized in the games I did exactly what I did in those games, start modifying them.
A standard Tommi 6 would get cained in most events needing a iB license or higher anyway.
I think the people picking up these standard cars are buying them as an investment above all else. Those who want to relive their games will probably be looking at ones with a Stage 4 Turbo kit.
Mastodon2 said:
I actually think it's improved - less of them around as many older ones have been scrapped, broken, blown up, and of course plenty have been crashed. I don't see nearly as many Evos or Imprezas as I did even 5 years ago, and when I do see them now they look more like enthusiast examples and not council estate specials. I was talking to a woman at an old job who knew her cars, and said the late 90s were ridiculous for seeing hooligans tearing about in Imprezas, as cheaper fuel and insurance, combined with the import boom, meant there were loads out there, many driven dubiously.
So as time has whittled away the tattier ones, we're left with cleaner examples, generally owned by older owners with better judgement about where and how to use the ample performance. This all leads to better public perception, or at the very least, less ire as the general motorist registers the presence of these cars less, as they become less ubiquitous and less often seen driven badly.
I couldn't agree more. I'm 66 and my wife 63. Have owned five Imprezas since 1998, including present 44,000 mile pristine and pampered Prodrive WRX Hawkeye 2.5. Now rare in this part of the country (east Herts). No need to drive like a lunatic, but performance is awsome and still turns some heads... So as time has whittled away the tattier ones, we're left with cleaner examples, generally owned by older owners with better judgement about where and how to use the ample performance. This all leads to better public perception, or at the very least, less ire as the general motorist registers the presence of these cars less, as they become less ubiquitous and less often seen driven badly.
Edited by johnmacdonald on Tuesday 2nd September 21:13
Krikkit said:
Personally I'd rather have a standard one to see what Mitsubishi thought was good enough from the factory. If I want something tweaking from there I can, but there is something special about sampling a hero car as standard.
But they were only standard due to the 'gentleman's agreement'much better with another 70 to 120 horses 
What a great car, and sensible money, what else can you get at £15k, always remember picking up an imported wrx many many moons ago when they were 1st imported and the garage outside dorking had a 22B, christ that car blew me away simpy stunning but they wanted £50k for it back then (17/18yrs ago ish)
but even now they are not far off that.
I drove a friends brand new evo 6 import which came from Mitsubishi Tokyo show room and was not even registered(yes on private property) which is why the 6 is my all time favourite Evo of all time and the one I would have if I was in the market for something like this.
but even now they are not far off that.
I drove a friends brand new evo 6 import which came from Mitsubishi Tokyo show room and was not even registered(yes on private property) which is why the 6 is my all time favourite Evo of all time and the one I would have if I was in the market for something like this.
This car is 16k because its standard and "unmolested" etc., but what is the point in an un-modified one? These cars were made to be aftermarket modified and tuned.
If you want to buy a car just as an investment there are better and more beautiful places to put 16k. If you actually want to drive the car and experence the huge jump in performance these things offered over a hot hatch, then spend the money on one that has been well modified. Time has moved on, the new Golfs and S3s now offer forced induction power and AWD (all be it Haldex).
I'll take one please, but with 400/400!
If you want to buy a car just as an investment there are better and more beautiful places to put 16k. If you actually want to drive the car and experence the huge jump in performance these things offered over a hot hatch, then spend the money on one that has been well modified. Time has moved on, the new Golfs and S3s now offer forced induction power and AWD (all be it Haldex).
I'll take one please, but with 400/400!
I love the TME and that is a spectacular example. I owned a Silver TME when it was 18 months old and really enjoyed it (minus warping discs and short servicing intervals).
It struck me that I read many posts on pistonheads that highlight how much people care what others think about them due to the vehicle they choose to drive. It seems a bit sad to allow others views like that to influence your purchase. If you want it, buy it if you can afford it. You only live once and don't answer to anyone about the cars you drove, on your way out.
Steven_RW
Edited for typo.
It struck me that I read many posts on pistonheads that highlight how much people care what others think about them due to the vehicle they choose to drive. It seems a bit sad to allow others views like that to influence your purchase. If you want it, buy it if you can afford it. You only live once and don't answer to anyone about the cars you drove, on your way out.
Steven_RW
Edited for typo.
Edited by Steven_RW on Wednesday 3rd September 16:56
Driven one, not owned one. Impressive performance but not a nice car to make any kind of journey over about half an hour. Made me think a bit about what it takes to make a genuinely fast car, because it was so uncomfortable I actually drove it more slowly. The guy who owned it, a very good friend, agreed and sold it not long afterwards.
Yertis said:
Driven one, not owned one. Impressive performance but not a nice car to make any kind of journey over about half an hour. Made me think a bit about what it takes to make a genuinely fast car, because it was so uncomfortable I actually drove it more slowly. The guy who owned it, a very good friend, agreed and sold it not long afterwards.
What wheels did it have? I got out of an B8 Audi S3 and into an Evo 9 with the standard 17" wheels and balloon tyres (as a passenger in both) and the Evo was noticeably nicer over the bumps which shocked me quite a lot.My Evo has 18" which is a very popular upgrade and tein springs which is again a very popular upgrade. Because of this the ride isn't near to as nice as it should be.
Edited by StottyEvo on Thursday 4th September 17:48
Love it. But, I think my view is a little skewed. I own a 22B, which I bought here in the UK, then sent over to Aus, and there it remains, whilst we've come back to the UK. That car is stock standard, and was our daily driver, and used to take the two kids to kindy / day care. It did a massive 8 kilometers every day (5 miles).
And while I loved it, I couldnt bear the thought of going crazy modifying it, because it would lose too much value.
Which is where my views on the TME come in. Its probably just a timing thing, but for now, I think these cars are cheaper, relatively, than the 22B, and so I'd have no problem in modding these to the nth degree. It would be an amazing driving experience out on track days, and you could really exploit it. I understand the TMEs were also the "drivers car" out of the evolutions.
Probably the best way to get over the 22B, would be to get a TME, and a P1 side by side in the garage. Awesome drivers cars.
And while I loved it, I couldnt bear the thought of going crazy modifying it, because it would lose too much value.
Which is where my views on the TME come in. Its probably just a timing thing, but for now, I think these cars are cheaper, relatively, than the 22B, and so I'd have no problem in modding these to the nth degree. It would be an amazing driving experience out on track days, and you could really exploit it. I understand the TMEs were also the "drivers car" out of the evolutions.
Probably the best way to get over the 22B, would be to get a TME, and a P1 side by side in the garage. Awesome drivers cars.
em177 said:
After todays Impreza thread it's interesting to think where the values of the 90's Jap performance stuff seems to be going. What's a good Makinen worth these days?! And how far can they go in 12/24 months!
one here for nearly 40k - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
HedgeyGedgey said:
If anyone's looking at buying a red makinen, might want to look on the MLR about them and the "scandal" that happened in 00's with them before handing over your hard earned cash!
"If you have a Red TME and it does not have black door handles, white wing blade and or it has black door tops and this all appears original, it will be one of these modified cars and could also possibly not even be an original red TME.If the model number does not have a 2 at the very end, it is not an original SCP (1 of 212 made). It will be one of several other possibilities."
Eeep!
HedgeyGedgey said:
If anyone's looking at buying a red makinen, might want to look on the MLR about them and the "scandal" that happened in 00's with them before handing over your hard earned cash!
As above. Although I feel you should always thoroughly read through an owners forum for any performance vehicle, as an Evo owner/MLR member it would truly pay dividends to do your research on the forum. Red maks are risky!!ConnorW said:
As above. Although I feel you should always thoroughly read through an owners forum for any performance vehicle, as an Evo owner/MLR member it would truly pay dividends to do your research on the forum. Red maks are risky!!
The MLR is a very very knowledgeable place about evos, always able to find someone willing to help on there 
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