Which spare part should I go for?
Discussion
Hi Guys,
I drive a MK5 Golf GTI. I have recently been getting the EPC and the ESP lights on the dash. This is supposedly a throttle body issue.
Now I've seen two compatible parts on Euro car parts, and was wondering which of the 2 I should go for and would there be any difference.
Thanks in advance,
Faz
Part 1 - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_...
Part 2 - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_...
I drive a MK5 Golf GTI. I have recently been getting the EPC and the ESP lights on the dash. This is supposedly a throttle body issue.
Now I've seen two compatible parts on Euro car parts, and was wondering which of the 2 I should go for and would there be any difference.
Thanks in advance,
Faz
Part 1 - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_...
Part 2 - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_...
Wow, that is quite a price difference, isn't it?!
I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
I sorted a Mk5 with ESP EPS faults. Another garage diagnosed it as ABS pump, I checked and there were indeed ABS pump codes so we found a used one and replaced it. This got rid of 3 of 5 codes but after driving it foe 30 miles the EPS threw a fit again. Turns out the yaw rate sensor had gone too. Changed that and all was well.
Have you had codes checked? There are a lot of things that can cause EPS lights.
Have you had tracking done recently? The steering angle sensor can need recalibrating after doing wheel allignment or if your alignment is far enough out.
Disclaimer, some of this post may not be 100% accurate due to pollution of alcohol
Have you had codes checked? There are a lot of things that can cause EPS lights.
Have you had tracking done recently? The steering angle sensor can need recalibrating after doing wheel allignment or if your alignment is far enough out.
Disclaimer, some of this post may not be 100% accurate due to pollution of alcohol
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Wow, that is quite a price difference, isn't it?!
I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
Thanks for this post Ray! That has definately helped. I was thinking I should probably stump up and get the VDO branded one as it is the OEM one. But I've read a few forums where they say the initial OEM VDO throttle bodies were of poor quality so wasn't too sure. I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
I appreciate the tip regarding TPS. I had completely forgotten I had one of them just the other side of my local ECP
Cheers,
Faz
Edit - Ray - Do you know whether the Throttle Body is a hassle to fit ?
Edited by Faz123 on Tuesday 2nd September 22:02
crossy67 said:
I sorted a Mk5 with ESP EPS faults. Another garage diagnosed it as ABS pump, I checked and there were indeed ABS pump codes so we found a used one and replaced it. This got rid of 3 of 5 codes but after driving it foe 30 miles the EPS threw a fit again. Turns out the yaw rate sensor had gone too. Changed that and all was well.
Have you had codes checked? There are a lot of things that can cause EPS lights.
Have you had tracking done recently? The steering angle sensor can need recalibrating after doing wheel allignment or if your alignment is far enough out.
Disclaimer, some of this post may not be 100% accurate due to pollution of alcohol
Hiya Crossy,Have you had codes checked? There are a lot of things that can cause EPS lights.
Have you had tracking done recently? The steering angle sensor can need recalibrating after doing wheel allignment or if your alignment is far enough out.
Disclaimer, some of this post may not be 100% accurate due to pollution of alcohol
Ive had the codes checked by a cheapo code reader and also using the "torque" (Pro version) app. They both show the code as "P0221 - Throttle / Pedal Position Sensor / Switch B Circuit Range / Performance"
I haven't had tracking done recently, So I really am at a loss as to what is causing the problem.
Your help is appreciated!
Faz
Faz123 said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Wow, that is quite a price difference, isn't it?!
I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
Thanks for this post Ray! That has definately helped. I was thinking I should probably stump up and get the VDO branded one as it is the OEM one. But I've read a few forums where they say the initial OEM VDO throttle bodies were of poor quality so wasn't too sure. I run an Octavia VRs, which is sort of similar. With regard to when I have replaced similar parts (throttle body, MAF sensor etc.) in my opinion, as these are essential for a healthy engine and running, I get genuine parts from TPS. Price-wise, they are often the same and sometimes cheaper than pattern parts from Euros, amazingly!
So first port of call tomorrow for you, give TPS a call and get a price. You might be surprised!
Only other comments I have on different-specs of bits from Euros, is that I buy depending upon the 'hassle factor' of replacement.
For example, I had to get a new starter motor a few months ago. Euros had three: One at £68, One at £90, and a Bosch one at £130.
Because it is a part that is relatively easy for me to replace on my driveway, and the fact that it can't bugger up my engine if it goes wrong, and it isn't the end of the world if it failed when I was out in the car, I just went for the cheapest. Which I am happy to say is still working perfectly now.
However, on something that is as important to the car as a throttle body, I would be a lot more careful.
HTH!
I appreciate the tip regarding TPS. I had completely forgotten I had one of them just the other side of my local ECP
Cheers,
Faz
Yeah, TPS is a God-send for us VAG slags
I've no idea how they mange to sell genuine parts for such a low price? Even cheaper than ebay on many occasions. I needed an exhaust hanger rubber / chassis mounting last week. Ebay 12 quid, TPS genuine part 6 quid...Anyway, let us know what you find at TPS tomorrow. Best of luck!
Old bean?! Im a young gun haha.
So I had some bad luck overnight! My car seems to have developed another fault!
(My Other thread)
I rang TPS anyway and asked how much the throttle body for my golf was. put your belts on and coffees down guys! £481
haha. So I had some bad luck overnight! My car seems to have developed another fault!
(My Other thread)I rang TPS anyway and asked how much the throttle body for my golf was. put your belts on and coffees down guys! £481
Edited by Faz123 on Wednesday 3rd September 10:27
If there's definitely a fault with it-sounds like an easy one to confirm for sure with a multi meter. Would be rotten to replace it only to find the fault isn't in the part but in the wiring!
Send off to BBS reman to have your unit reconditioned. There's another crowd less well known than bbs reman who are cheaper then them.
Send off to BBS reman to have your unit reconditioned. There's another crowd less well known than bbs reman who are cheaper then them.
ShaunTheSheep said:
If there's definitely a fault with it-sounds like an easy one to confirm for sure with a multi meter. Would be rotten to replace it only to find the fault isn't in the part but in the wiring!
Send off to BBS reman to have your unit reconditioned. There's another crowd less well known than bbs reman who are cheaper then them.
Hiya Shaun,Send off to BBS reman to have your unit reconditioned. There's another crowd less well known than bbs reman who are cheaper then them.
You mention the fault being easy to confirm with a multi meter. Do you know what I'd be looking for / checking? (Sorry for the what might be a daft question, but I'm not the best with all the mechanical stuff)
And do you mean BBA? As when I searched for BBS reman the closest hit to it relating to throttle bodies etc was BBA reman. Have you any experience with them?
Cheers,
Faz
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