RE: Ian Callum's Jag Mk2 to enter production

[Vocal Minority]

Not my cup of tea I am afraid.

Modern wire wheels are a bane on retro styling in my opinion

[jonno990]

ChemicalChaos said:

doogz said:

Bodo said:

It was not offensive when reported it's Ian Callum's personal car/expression. Offering a chav'ed Mk II, however, is tasteless.

What's chav about it?

The stereo?

The big-diameter wide wheels, which do no suit it at all. It needs a set of proper small wires on it, which will also bring a lower and more predictable grip limit from skinnier tyres (re. GT86)

Chavs have been Barrying up their jags for years now

[DonkeyApple]

jonno990 said:

Chavs have been Barrying up their jags for years now

At least there was a reason for the Broadspeed. It was after all a factory backed race car.

[wildcat45]

100SRV said:

Hmmm, not fantastic is it?
The front valance apertures - cheap looking and not in keeping with the rest of the car
The wheels - too wide

If it wasn't Ian Callum associated with it what sort of reception would it receive?

Stop "re-imagining" things and design something fresh FFS

Indeed

[kev b]

If I chose to drive an improved Mk2 Jaguar I would expect it to look original at first glance, chromed bumpers especially.

Modern width wheels maybe but with original type hubcaps and I would expect to see a polished XK six when I lifted the bonnet, this engine, its sound and look are the essence of the car.

I would not object to TBI disguised as Webers, aircon, PAS, better seats in original shade etc, as long as the whole did not look like an outlaw chav hot rod like the featured car.

[piquet]

you have to wonder if he paid for his, or did cmc say, we want to sell expensive modernised mark IIs like eagle do with the e-type, we'll get callum to tweak it in exchange for a free car for him and make the money off the others

[klunkT5]

I said what i thought of these in the original post about the car the other week, I just hope they are going to convert basket cases that have little chance of getting restored and not hack up nice original spec ones?

Edited by klunkT5 on Friday 5th September 10:39

[iloveboost]

I think you're all being a bit harsh about this. I'm not a fan of the Mk2 design but it's just a resto-mod type of car. If you guys don't hate subtle stuff like this you will hate others with modern powertrains in them and a stereo with mp3 support, etc. Some even have neons and spinners. I'll stop teasing you now.

I'll voice an opinion like the rest but honestly who cares?! You're getting all riled up about something you will ever buy and may never see in the real world! Some of you will probably take comfort from that.

[JonRB]

iloveboost said:

I think you're all being a bit harsh about this. I'm not a fan of the Mk2 design but it's just a resto-mod type of car. If you guys don't hate subtle stuff like this you will hate others with modern powertrains in them and a stereo with mp3 support, etc. Some even have neons and spinners. I'll stop teasing you now.

I'll voice an opinion like the rest but honestly who cares?! You're getting all riled up about something you will never buy and may never see in the real world! Some of you will probably take comfort from that.

I agree.

Personally I love it. I acknowledge that it's not others' cup of tea, but I really don't get the hate. Who cares? So the people who hate it are going to spend their £300k-odd on something else then, presumably?

Seriously, there are far more worthy things to direct your vitriol at than this.

[downr]

no,no,no,no!!

I love the Mk2 Jaguar, one of my all time favourites, father-in-law has a fantastic example in Green

Its just not a car to be recreated like this - its not a sports car, its a classic for wafting around in

(all my own personal opinion ofc, sure many will disagree)

[DKS]

All that money and I still have to wind the windows myself?!
Deal breaker, that is.

[Carsie]

oooooh! Mr C. you surprise me. Where's the class? ......it's a Jag!

[kev b]

After thinking about this a little more I think this has been done the wrong way around, they should have taken a modern Jaguar, something common cheap and unloved (S Type?) and made it retro, like some firms do with Porsches.

This approach would save genuine MK2s for the classic enthusiast and satisfy the demand for a retro styled car with modern underpinnings. Probably cheaper too as donor cars are available for way less than sixties cars and already have PAS, Aircon etc.

[urquattro]

[quote=B10]Not for me. There seems to be a fashion to make cars look menacing and possibly owned by an oligarch / drug dealer. Personally I prefer beautiful cars in pretty colours; like my women. So a Mk11 in a period colour with chrome bumpers rather than plastic bumpers, pointless vents and a colour akin to light tarmac.

agree with above, mk 2, 340 and S Types all period elegant, Callum version lacks the historic lines and body flow, not for me at all, restore and update the original shell and go almost to the expensive NZ version.
many beautiful rebuilt, restored with tasteful modern upgrades are produced in this country and side by side with the Callum would only underline the wonderful and original shape.

p.s. I do not have one, just an original shape Series 1 4.2 fhc - fantastic shape as well.

[kramv8]

I love classic cars. Almost all of my car passion is devoted to this 4-wheeled genre. I particularly adore classic Jags and in particular; Mk1/2 & E-Type. I also appreciate that each individual has their own specific sense of good taste. My own says that this car is UAF and I can't believe either CMC, nor Ian Callum (of DB7/current XK, etc) fame have seen fit to put their name to it. The exterior looks like it's crashed through a Max Power show and the interior looks like how 'pros' were 'modding' classics in the early '00's an Eagle-type job this is not although the price tag seems not to suggest this.

Just my opinion though!

[kramv8]

JonRB said:

Last time I saw one for sale was at Racing Green in 2009 and it was for £80k all in.


Beecham Jaguar Mk2 by JonRB, on Flickr

I always thought that the contemporary wing mirrors fitted to these MK2 conversions (and their E-Types) looked faintly ridiculous and virtually ruined the car

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 4th September 17:28

[DonkeyApple]

kramv8 said:

JonRB said:

Last time I saw one for sale was at Racing Green in 2009 and it was for £80k all in.


Beecham Jaguar Mk2 by JonRB, on Flickr

I always thought that the contemporary wing mirrors fitted to these MK2 conversions (and their E-Types) looked faintly ridiculous and virtually ruined the car

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 4th September 17:28

Agree. They didn't look right on this car. Not did the XK dash. The dash particularly grated because if anyone has seen the original wood trim and cappings on a MKII it is baffling to remove such things of beauty.

However, it was an option. RG had another Beecham MKII which retained original trim.

I came extremely close to buying the latter as it looked to be a perfect family car with original MKII looks but driving like a modern XKR.

[Transmitter Man]

A couple of years back at a Goodwood show there was an old Jaguar with modern mechanicals. I cannot remember for the life of me what model it was now but it was seriously nice.

Anyone remember by chance?

I like Ian's MK2, but not the red interior and the price is scary.

Phil

[needham]

I owned a Mk2 in the 1970s and loved it so perhaps I'm a bit biased...But, the wheels are too large, makes the car look a bit clumsy, and the exhausts must be to one side and not in the middle.
I'm sure it'll drive beautifully, but a mint original 3.8 is the one I'd go for.
The depreciation on the Callum car will surely be steep, whilst the value of a mint original will increase.

[Richard A]

Roy C said:

Every time I see it, I just think...

One of these was following me in traffic the other day. A very odd experience, seeing that suprisingly authentic front topped by such a high square glasshouse.