RE: Aston Lagonda official testing images
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In terms of choosing your market, the internet suggests the following:
Billionaires in UAE in 2014: 4
Billionaires in China in 2014 : 122
Millionaires in UAE in 2013: 54,600
Millionaires in China in 2013: 2,378,000
I can understand a small scale launch in the UAE, but in terms of market potential, why not go for China? Am sure that the pedestrian impact regulations will not be a showstopper for launch. But as well as hot weather testing, the cold weather , smog, city crawling testing may need to be extended a little...
Anyways, good to see audacious designs entering the market, it will never please everyone , but am sure it will be a nice place from which to observe the shopping malls and sandstorms.....
Billionaires in UAE in 2014: 4
Billionaires in China in 2014 : 122
Millionaires in UAE in 2013: 54,600
Millionaires in China in 2013: 2,378,000
I can understand a small scale launch in the UAE, but in terms of market potential, why not go for China? Am sure that the pedestrian impact regulations will not be a showstopper for launch. But as well as hot weather testing, the cold weather , smog, city crawling testing may need to be extended a little...
Anyways, good to see audacious designs entering the market, it will never please everyone , but am sure it will be a nice place from which to observe the shopping malls and sandstorms.....
Malachimon said:
Question: why the hell would you put so much effort into an car and sell it ONLY in the Middle East?
You know that squiggle at the end of your sentence? Its a very clever thing called a question markBasically it's purpose is to ingeniously turn your written sentence into a question negating the need to begin it with 'Question:'
Aletsch said:
why not go for China?
I cant remember the exact figure but China has horrific import taxes especially with anything bigger than a 4.0 engine (assuming this has a bigger engine) so the price despite the audience market will swell to alot more than the no doubt horrific price they are already asking for this one.Also I think China is a bit of a different proposition market wise, be interesting to see % of population figures based on UAE/Saudi that drive Rolls Royce/Bentley to that of a same calculation in China. Id assume the middle east would be a vastly higher percentage.
My thoughts as a LCC member and Lagonda owner:
This makes a lot of sense for the following reasons:
1) When it comes to cars (and most other things) the middle east craves premium brands and exclusivity (AM is certainly premium and exclusive to most of the world but not in the ME). The ME also likes BIG saloons with room for the well to do portly oil sheikhs (have you tried sitting in the back of a Rapide). This car is mahoosive, it is not designed for Monaco or Marylebone.
2) From AML’s perspective they achieve 2 main goals, real world and localised testing (massive cost savings) AND the reintroduction of a dormant brand that has had strong middle east connections since the 70’s. AML does not need a Maybach on its books - 99.9% of the worlds luxury car buyers think a Lagonda is some kind of Italian boat and AML are not in the business of Brand management, they make cars.
My prediction is that because of point 1 it will sell out of the production run. Because of point 2 AML might have a fighting chance of homologating something with a Lagonda badge for worldwide consumption.
This makes a lot of sense for the following reasons:
1) When it comes to cars (and most other things) the middle east craves premium brands and exclusivity (AM is certainly premium and exclusive to most of the world but not in the ME). The ME also likes BIG saloons with room for the well to do portly oil sheikhs (have you tried sitting in the back of a Rapide). This car is mahoosive, it is not designed for Monaco or Marylebone.
2) From AML’s perspective they achieve 2 main goals, real world and localised testing (massive cost savings) AND the reintroduction of a dormant brand that has had strong middle east connections since the 70’s. AML does not need a Maybach on its books - 99.9% of the worlds luxury car buyers think a Lagonda is some kind of Italian boat and AML are not in the business of Brand management, they make cars.
My prediction is that because of point 1 it will sell out of the production run. Because of point 2 AML might have a fighting chance of homologating something with a Lagonda badge for worldwide consumption.
Aletsch said:
In terms of choosing your market, the internet suggests the following:
Billionaires in UAE in 2014: 4
Billionaires in China in 2014 : 122
Millionaires in UAE in 2013: 54,600
Millionaires in China in 2013: 2,378,000
I can understand a small scale launch in the UAE, but in terms of market potential, why not go for China? Am sure that the pedestrian impact regulations will not be a showstopper for launch. But as well as hot weather testing, the cold weather , smog, city crawling testing may need to be extended a little...
Anyways, good to see audacious designs entering the market, it will never please everyone , but am sure it will be a nice place from which to observe the shopping malls and sandstorms.....
Because China is new money. They want the real bling stuff. Once the world knows that Lagonda means you are very rich then the Chinese demand will appear. Billionaires in UAE in 2014: 4
Billionaires in China in 2014 : 122
Millionaires in UAE in 2013: 54,600
Millionaires in China in 2013: 2,378,000
I can understand a small scale launch in the UAE, but in terms of market potential, why not go for China? Am sure that the pedestrian impact regulations will not be a showstopper for launch. But as well as hot weather testing, the cold weather , smog, city crawling testing may need to be extended a little...
Anyways, good to see audacious designs entering the market, it will never please everyone , but am sure it will be a nice place from which to observe the shopping malls and sandstorms.....
Conversely, AM has a long track record of selling in the ME. It's what kept them afloat until Ford bailed them out. They will almost certainly sell more in the ME than they could ever sell in China.
Your average British public school or Oxbridge educated Arab has a long track record of buying Astons, unlike your typical Chinese slaver or copyright thief.
I'm guessing they know who bought most of their 177's and who is buying their other products?
Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 8th September 14:54
DonkeyApple said:
Because China is new money. They want the real bling stuff. Once the world knows that Lagonda means you are very rich then the Chinese demand will appear.
Conversely, AM has a long track record of selling in the ME. It's what kept them afloat until Ford bailed them out. They will almost certainly sell more in the ME than they could ever sell in China.
Your average British public school or Oxbridge educated Arab has a long track record of buying Astons, unlike your typical Chinese slaver or copyright thief.
I'm guessing they know who bought most of their 177's and who is buying their other products?
Beautifully put. Chinese really like longer wheel based cars, which makes the Lagonda and ideal car to sell there. But only after the ME market has shown it is only bought by the seriously wealthy, there by creating the Chinese aspiration for the car. That's if they haven't copied it or fined Aston Martin for price fixing along with everyone else Conversely, AM has a long track record of selling in the ME. It's what kept them afloat until Ford bailed them out. They will almost certainly sell more in the ME than they could ever sell in China.
Your average British public school or Oxbridge educated Arab has a long track record of buying Astons, unlike your typical Chinese slaver or copyright thief.
I'm guessing they know who bought most of their 177's and who is buying their other products?
Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 8th September 14:54
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