RE: Jaguar XE - full details

RE: Jaguar XE - full details

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The Vambo

6,643 posts

140 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Stelvio1 said:
Well done Jaguar - just need to get folk to try them to realise that Jag are so ahead of the BM/Merc game smile
I think JLR would take "just as good" right now

Blackpuddin

16,409 posts

204 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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[quote=Dazed & Confused]Was browsing another car site, and couldn't help but notice how strong the family resemblance really is:



I'm genuinely struggling to tell them apart from that angle.

Although in this image, from the wing mirrors back it looks very BMW indeed (as others have pointed out):



It's a hard segment to get right - being too different or exciting seems to scare buyers off. I think playing it safe like they have is a prudent, if uninspiring, move.


Edited by Dazed & Confused on Monday 8th September 21:38

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And if they decide to do an SUV version, the good news is that Mitsubishi has already done most of the legwork:


anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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okie592 said:
I like it a lot, if the v6 from the f type fits, I hope the v8 does too.

personally i don't think the large capacity v8 suits the "smaller" car. The "future" series of engines will help this car to achieve significantly better real world performance with fuel economy, and ace the necessary, if irrelevant, legislative driving cycle tests.

The new heavily boosted 4cyl gasoline engine in particular should be ground breaking (sorry, can't say why) but the trick is that JLR need to get it developed and into the car ASAP!

(The delays to develop the "decent" XF models has let those pesky germans romp ahead. They can't afford to repeat that error with the XE)

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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KTF said:
Fittster said:
Why? Merc, BMW have historically done well with only RWD.
Not if they want to sell it in the US.

Is there a lwb version for China as well?
The XF is available as 4 wheel drive in the US, would not be surprised if this was too.

dtrump

2,120 posts

190 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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nice car

but which way should the wheels rotate?
on the right side they look backwards..

Alex P

180 posts

127 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I like the colour (Italian racing red?) and the styling overall. I like the front and the sides of the car but I am not too keen on the rear end (looks too high and a bit truncated to me). There is a family resemblance to the face-lifted XF but I can also see some form of Citroen and Audi from the C pillar back. Thankfully I can also see an element of Alfa 159, though more in the proportions than the detailing. The interior looks fresh but I am not sure it looks particularly 'Jaguar'; as a front seat passenger I would rather be looking at a lovely slab of walnut than the large expanse of black that I see in the pictures (I am 35 years old and yet I do find the majority of BMW and Audi interiors depressingly dull, dark and dreary...).

As for drive train options, no doubt we will see lots of diesel fours doing the fleet fodder jobs but I am far more interested in the petrol fours and the petrol six. I would expect the 2.0 petrol four to have circa 270 BHP to compete with the likes of the Cadillac ATS 2.0 turbo. I hope the V6 S has the option of an exhaust note similar to the F-type coupe. If priced similar to the equivalent 335i or S4/5 then it will be mighty tempting, if priced at £10k more then no thanks...

I guess we will find out more about pricing soon?

trashbat

6,005 posts

152 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Looks really good and up my street if the Alfa Giulia never comes to competitive fruition.

However... The XF facelift that the design language comes from is quite long in the tooth now. What happens when that car is replaced? Will the language change again and leave the XE looking a generation out? Otherwise they'll be introducing a new car with few visual changes.

Don't get me wrong, I love the face of it. Probably the best looking mainstream car on sale.

cerb4.5lee

30,189 posts

179 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I think its good that the punter has a viable alternative to the Germans with this but I wouldn't have thought they will do too many great engine options for it though as Jag will mainly want volume sales from the hateful 4 pot diesel engine sadly.

Leggy

1,018 posts

221 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Hopefully an estate version with 4WD in 2 years when mine is due for change.......
Would love to buy British.
It will sell well I'm sure.

0a

23,879 posts

193 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I think that looks great, and the technical specs read well also. Jaguar are a very exciting company right now!

Stelvio1

1,153 posts

226 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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The Vambo said:
Stelvio1 said:
Well done Jaguar - just need to get folk to try them to realise that Jag are so ahead of the BM/Merc game smile
I think JLR would take "just as good" right now
Erm.... no... I recently chose to buy an XF over the comparable German offerings because it was so far superior in most departments - bought, not leased smile

renorti

727 posts

195 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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good looking car, sure it will be a decent drive too.
hopefully hold it's value a bit better than the x- type did!

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Fittster said:
Kong said:
This is the opposite of most British cars which look superb but lag behind the Germans in engineering, this one has the specs to rival the Germans but looks a bit boring.

That low Co2 is a major plus, expect a lot of these on fleet.
Which German models are more stylish?

All equally dull.
In terms of design, Jaguar have clearly chosen a "We belong with them" strategy (vis a vis German marques) and not a "We're manifestly different from them" strategy (a la Cadillac).

There's certainly a business case for such a strategy, but it does make one wonder what Jaguar might have done a bit differently if it had conjured more of its own distinct and distinctly magnificent design language.

I like this car. But I like it more as a product rather than anything which might ignite a passion within.






ukmike2000

476 posts

167 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I'm sure it will be a good car, given Jaguar's recent successes - but for me there was no WOW Factor at the unveiling.
If I was buying early next year I would probably take a C Class Merc in preference to an XE.

rogerhudson

338 posts

157 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Not bad, but.
Why do car designers make such a wide central console? To position driver and passenger best divide the door to door distance in half and then make each seat centre-line in its own half, it leaves console room and you're not against the door so much.
Interior quality and comfortable ride are what we want.

ukmike2000

476 posts

167 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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From the launch notes there WILL be AWD versions - maybe that is why the centre console is so wide?

In another 12 - 18 months the Alfa Romeo Giulia may join the party as well in the same sector. It will have to be spectacular to make a dent on Jaguar XE and the Germans however. It will never be a mainstream choice though based on past sales performance.

elephantstone

2,176 posts

156 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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The two cars i have properley fallen inlove with which i can realisticly carry on induldging in is MX5's and Jags.. I love my V8 s type and hope to be able to afford a v6 petrol XE in a few years.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

242 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Meh.

What a missed opportunity. frown

zeduffman

4,054 posts

150 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I think it looks smart. Hope they don't silence the V6 too much in a bid to make it mainstream-friendly.

samoht

5,633 posts

145 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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The way the shoulder line intersects with the C-pillar reminds me of the VXR8 (and its other GM variants)