RE: Jaguar XE - full details

[andyps]

ZesPak said:

Going to have a look tomorrow... Really hope it doesn't disappoint.

I wasn't when I went to the previews Jaguar held, I really like the interior design and the dash, whilst not the best there is, was better than it looked from the pictures.

But this is PH so surely the way it drives is most important and that will have to wait.

[DonkeyApple]

andyps said:

ZesPak said:

Going to have a look tomorrow... Really hope it doesn't disappoint.

I wasn't when I went to the previews Jaguar held, I really like the interior design and the dash, whilst not the best there is, was better than it looked from the pictures.

But this is PH so surely the way it drives is most important and that will have to wait.

But this is England, so the way it sits in a traffic jam is also very important.

[blearyeyedboy]

DonkeyApple said:

But this is England, so the way it sits in a traffic jam is also very important.

Jaguar aren't selling cars to the Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish then?

[mondeoman]

monamimate said:

Sat in an XE today.

Did someone forget to tell them at Jaguar that they sell a premium product? I thought I'd stepped into Kia or a Hyundai.

Simply awful. Poor materials, horrible design, cheap looking...

Audi and BMW interior designers must be laughing their heads off.

Not the same one I sat in then, made the 3 series look like dullsville on a really dull day.

[Flying Toaster]

K321 said:

saw this bland car a few weeks ago

I think the rear's actually grown on me.
Is it me though or is the bootlid a bit out of line, lights on the lid look lower.

[andyps]

Flying Toaster said:

Is it me though or is the bootlid a bit out of line, lights on the lid look lower.

You may be right but that would be a pre-production car so not necessarily representative of customer cars. They are much better aligned than Mercedes managed with one generation of E-Class where they were very noticeably wrong on all cars - can't remember which designation it was but probably coincided with them stopping building them as well as they always had previously in the 90s - although that was a design not build problem.

[ZesPak]

mondeoman said:

Not the same one I sat in then, made the 3 series look like dullsville on a really dull day.

Agreed. Was at the car show today, made a point of it to sit in all of them and have a good look at the interior. Audi needs to step up their game as well. Between the Merc and the Jag, they get a solid third place in terms of interior.

Was pleasantly surprised by the Jag. The merc however, looks like it's a generation ahead. Everything about it just seems right and feels expensive. Like a smaller s class if that makes sense.

[trashbat]

K321 said:

saw this bland car a few weeks ago

Whilst we're summoning up cars it doesn't look anything like, it reminds me of this:



crossed with this:



and I don't really like it. Otherwise I'm open to it - should be my kind of thing.

[trashbat]

Also:

ZesPak said:

The petrol is 40% higher, at 20k/year miles (hardly a huge number?), it's not hard to work out that might easily be £800/year!
On top of that, most taxing in most countries works on CO2.

So, in my eyes, you REALLY have to want a petrol engine to justify it.

What's the list price difference between the two? Usually diesels cost a fair bit more to buy, which you only see a bit of back in resale, so if the cost of ownership is increased by a couple of grand and you only keep it three years, that's your £800 wiped out.

Keep it out of warranty, on the other hand, and if you get a diesel-only fault, like DPF or EGR or DMF, or on NA petrol vs turbo diesel comparisons, the turbo, it soon adds up, and again you lose.

[cerb4.5lee]

K321 said:

saw this bland car a few weeks ago

I have to admit I was quietly excited about the new XE apart from the fact you have to be over sixty years of age to be interested in a Jag in the first place...but that does look bland to say the least.

The 3 series is dull to look at too so you can see why they haven't pushed the boat out with the styling to be fair because it hasn't done the 3 series any harm...so if you cant beat them...join them!

[Sump]

Stelvio1 said:

The Vambo said:

Stelvio1 said:

Well done Jaguar - just need to get folk to try them to realise that Jag are so ahead of the BM/Merc game

I think JLR would take "just as good" right now

Erm.... no... I recently chose to buy an XF over the comparable German offerings because it was so far superior in most departments - bought, not leased

This is delusional right here.

[Zedboy1200]

I spent an afternoon with a couple in November. Didn't drive them, kinda pre-production showroom play. The White one referenced here was outstandingly dull....I could hardly remember it on the tube home. They had a red 3:0 r-sport flash thing too. It was beautiful. Really, really beautiful...but small too, really small. Reminded me of when I first sat in an IS Lexus in the early 00's.

Comments on the interior in the post above rang true for me. Dull and made by Airfix....will hugely struggle against the Germans when they have 99mg/g CO2 thingies as well.

In summary, arrived at viewing excited, left gutted.

[DonkeyApple]

blearyeyedboy said:

DonkeyApple said:

But this is England, so the way it sits in a traffic jam is also very important.

Jaguar aren't selling cars to the Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish then?

I'm sure Jaguar intend to export to many weird and wonderful foreign markets. But I don't see the relevence of this on this particular thread.

[blearyeyedboy]

DonkeyApple said:

I'm sure Jaguar intend to export to many weird and wonderful foreign markets. But I don't see the relevence of this on this particular thread.

Typical Londoner, ignoring the rest of the UK and paying more taxes to subisidise a lot of the rest of the nation and... and... erm...

Anyway, back on topic...

K321 said:

saw this bland car a few weeks ago

Bearing in mind how many of these cars are bought in no-extra-cost white, it needs to look good in white. See an IS300h for an example of how to do it. This photo may be unkind but to my eyes, that doesn't look great.

I'd like this to be good, but I have to say that if one were looking for an alternative to a 320d then an IS300h looks more interesting than this at the moment. Time will tell, but I hope to be wrong.

[McAndy]

The back looks like a slightly out of proportion A5 to me.

[Zod]

andyps said:

I wasn't when I went to the previews Jaguar held, I really like the interior design and the dash, whilst not the best there is, was better than it looked from the pictures.

But this is PH so surely the way it drives is most important and that will have to wait.

We know the answer to that:

Mike Cross: "It handles better than all its peers, because I say it does."

[FWDRacer]

Zod said:

We know the answer to that:

Mike Cross: "It handles better than all its peers, because it has superior suspension architecture, double wishbones instead of Pauper macpherson struts.."

Edited for accuracy.

[RobM77]

FWDRacer said:

Zod said:

We know the answer to that:

Mike Cross: "It handles better than all its peers, because it has superior suspension architecture, double wishbones instead of Pauper macpherson struts.."

Edited for accuracy.

It does have every right to handle better, plus of course with a FE/RWD layout the weight distribution will be much more favourable. That doesn't mean it will handle better though - that bit's up to Mr Cross!

[DUMBO100]

Flying Toaster said:

K321 said:

saw this bland car a few weeks ago

I think the rear's actually grown on me.
Is it me though or is the bootlid a bit out of line, lights on the lid look lower.

I might have mild OCD but that "leaping cat" Jaguar Logo upsets me. Surely a car needs a bit of symmetry on it's rear end? I would have to change or delete it before purchasing/leasing one of these

[trashbat]

DUMBO100 said:

I would have to change or delete it before purchasing/leasing one of these

Change it to what? The legendary two-arsed, no-headed Big Cat of Gaydon?