Help! Advice on private sale gone terribly wrong :-(

Help! Advice on private sale gone terribly wrong :-(

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islaydan

Original Poster:

16 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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He's just been in touch via a couple of texts to say it's at the freight terminal, so the ferry company can put it back to me.

He also said sorry, he doesn't have that kind of money to spend on fixing it.

That makes me feel slightly better.

My work at present makes it difficult for me to quickly hop a ferry and collect it, hence having to rely on the ferry company to put it back on.

I was quite happy to renegotiate and help with sourcing cheaper parts and fixes, but it sounds like I'm better off getting it back and starting afresh.

I'm just angry at the garage that clearly wound the chap up. He doesn't sound like someone who's familiar with sourcing cheaper parts or doing a bit of work himself, hence he totally relied on the garage for advice.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Muzzer79 said:
Don't do this

For a few hundred quid, it's not worth it. You've only conversed by text message FFS, you don't even know where this guy is to file a claim

If the money means something to you, get on a ferry and find it.

If not, chalk it up to experience and don't let people take your cars before they've paid for them
Why exactly should he not do that? It's up to him if it's worth the effort of not. It's not a difficult process.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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islaydan said:
I'm just angry at the garage that clearly wound the chap up. He doesn't sound like someone who's familiar with sourcing cheaper parts or doing a bit of work himself, hence he totally relied on the garage for advice.
Well he probably shouldn't have brought a car sight unseen.

Good to hear your happy, but it's not you or the garage that's at fault.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I'd get the ferry over and bring it back home, he's told you to keep the deposit so £100 should cover the Ferry costs I'd hope.

Then get it fixed at your local garage and a fresh 12months MOT on it and then sell for profit.

islaydan

Original Poster:

16 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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StottyEvo said:
I'd get the ferry over and bring it back home, he's told you to keep the deposit so £100 should cover the Ferry costs I'd hope.

Then get it fixed at your local garage and a fresh 12months MOT on it and then sell for profit.
Actually, the ferry costs for unaccompanied freight were £150 each way, so I'll be £200 down.

Still, once I get it back I'll lick my wounds and try not to be a trusting numpty again!

Leptons

5,114 posts

177 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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SteveSteveson said:
Why exactly should he not do that? It's up to him if it's worth the effort of not. It's not a difficult process.
Because it's ridiculous, unnecessary, hassle and ridiculous. The poor chap hasn't even got time to pick his car up let alone take the other guy to court.

islaydan

Original Poster:

16 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Leptons said:
Because it's ridiculous, unnecessary, hassle and ridiculous. The poor chap hasn't even got time to pick his car up let alone take the other guy to court.
As weird as it may seem, I don't have the guy's name or address, only his girlfriend's details.

In my defence, I would say we are usually very trusting of people round these parts. Until recently locals would leave keys in cars whilst shopping, and many transactions don't require immediate payment.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Leptons said:
Because it's ridiculous, unnecessary, hassle and ridiculous. The poor chap hasn't even got time to pick his car up let alone take the other guy to court.
No it's not. The guy didn't pay for goods he purchased and it is an easy process. You don't even need to go to court. It can all be done in writing. It's just filling in a few forms. Most of the time people pay when they get the court forms anyway. I don't see how using the system in place is rediculous. Small claims is in place for just this reason.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Well as always PH is educational, mostly about how strange some people are but I can't think where else you get this kind of combined entertainment and education in one place!

pinchmeimdreamin

9,966 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Do you have any pictures of the Girlfriend ?

Muzzer79

10,035 posts

188 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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SteveSteveson said:
Leptons said:
Because it's ridiculous, unnecessary, hassle and ridiculous. The poor chap hasn't even got time to pick his car up let alone take the other guy to court.
No it's not. The guy didn't pay for goods he purchased and it is an easy process. You don't even need to go to court. It can all be done in writing. It's just filling in a few forms. Most of the time people pay when they get the court forms anyway. I don't see how using the system in place is rediculous. Small claims is in place for just this reason.
Where will he file the claim to?

Oh yes

Some bloke off a car ad
1 Text Message Avenue
Somewhere
Western Isles ferry port

Leptons

5,114 posts

177 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Do you have any pictures of the Girlfriend ?
That's more like it, presumably you've still got his birds number? Take her up OXO tower, that'll learn him.

Marvib

528 posts

147 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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islaydan said:
Actually, the ferry costs for unaccompanied freight were £150 each way, so I'll be £200 down.

Still, once I get it back I'll lick my wounds and try not to be a trusting numpty again!
He gave you £100 deposit and out of that you paid £150 to deliver it to him?

Seriously?

pinchmeimdreamin

9,966 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Leptons said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
Do you have any pictures of the Girlfriend ?
That's more like it, presumably you've still got his birds number? Take her up OXO tower, that'll learn him.
Its the western isles don't they use sheep for that sort of thing ?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Sounds cheaper to just walk away from it. Call the ferry company and tell them any member of staff can have it for free.


Going to be the cheapest way in the long run.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Marvib said:
islaydan said:
Actually, the ferry costs for unaccompanied freight were £150 each way, so I'll be £200 down.

Still, once I get it back I'll lick my wounds and try not to be a trusting numpty again!
He gave you £100 deposit and out of that you paid £150 to deliver it to him?

Seriously?
yikes


islaydan

Original Poster:

16 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Marvib said:
He gave you £100 deposit and out of that you paid £150 to deliver it to him?

Seriously?
Yep!

We agreed a time to pay the balance but he said he would let his girlfriend pay and nothing happened and it was too close to the agreed dropping off time at the ferry. There was always a reason, such as he was at work, his girlfriend didn't have reception, she was waiting on having to authorise her account, just as the minutes ticked away.

I thought, well he's serious as he's paid £100, so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt, rather than tick him off when he might have made special arrangements to collect it. I had every reason to think he'd be absolutely delighted with the car.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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islaydan said:
Leptons said:
Because it's ridiculous, unnecessary, hassle and ridiculous. The poor chap hasn't even got time to pick his car up let alone take the other guy to court.
As weird as it may seem, I don't have the guy's name or address, only his girlfriend's details.

In my defence, I would say we are usually very trusting of people round these parts. Until recently locals would leave keys in cars whilst shopping, and many transactions don't require immediate payment.
Stay away from the water, Truman.

The Moose

22,860 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Leave it on the mainland as that's where it'll end up. Sell it from there.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Stupid OP is stupid.

How the hell were you going to fill in and send the V5 to the dvla with the new keepers details?

I thought school had gone back already??