RE: Porsche 928: You Know You Want To
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except for the colour, maybe the perfect 928. (never did like guards red, even if it is the archetypal '80s Porsche colour) love that it hasn't been mucked about, that it is such a time capsule. those pasha interiors age pretty badly most of the time, so it's good to see one in what appears to be good nick. and still with the ECOTY sticker - amazing.
what i find unique about the 928 is that, 36 years after it was introduced, it still looks like a modern car. it could have just been unveiled at geneva this year, and would fit right in with the rest of Porsche's current stable. I know that Porsche has fairly stable design genes, but even so, it was qute an accomplishment.
what i find unique about the 928 is that, 36 years after it was introduced, it still looks like a modern car. it could have just been unveiled at geneva this year, and would fit right in with the rest of Porsche's current stable. I know that Porsche has fairly stable design genes, but even so, it was qute an accomplishment.
knebworth01 said:
Love it. Its funny how tastes change and early models of car become the nicer to look at and more sought after. Think Esprit, 944, Countach etc.
Any other candidates for better looking early on in life?
I think as a rule most early models have a purity of line that is rarely bettered. Mk 1 Golf, 911, Mini you name it, original is usually best. Even if you rule out cars that move from one mark to another like the Golf, I'd say it was still the truth that "facelifting" rarely improves the car but just gives it an identifiable "newness" that appeals in the showroom.Any other candidates for better looking early on in life?
Leins said:
"Who's the U-Boat commander?" 
lol. A modern classic...Risky Business - Porsche 928 in the Lake
;-)
Lowtimer said:
These early 237 bhp 4.5 litre cars are pretty relaxed in a straight line. The later 928S was the first one that could really be regarded a high performance car even by the standards of the day.
I thought I had a vague memory of these being the fastest production car in the world for a while?
poing said:
I thought I had a vague memory of these being the fastest production car in the world for a while?
The S4 was the fastest car in the US market at one stage I think. But that was much more powerful, and had a much better 4-speed box. The original Autocar road test 928 automatic did 0-60 in 8.0 dead, 0-100 in 20 point something and 140 mph flat out. That wasn't hanging about in the late 70s, but it wasn't anything like the bleeding edge of road-burner death machine either.
Edited by Lowtimer on Thursday 11th September 21:08
Lowtimer said:
poing said:
I thought I had a vague memory of these being the fastest production car in the world for a while?
The S4 was the fastest car in the US market at one stage I think. But that was much more powerful, and had a much better 4-speed box. The original Autocar road test 928 automatic did 0-60 in 8.0 dead, 0-100 in 20 point something and 140 mph flat out. That wasn't hanging about in the late 70s, but it wasn't anything like the bleeding edge of road-burner death machine either.
I'd still buy one, all those 80's films have made me desire one of these more than is even slightly sensible. The sound alone (however faked) in Risky Business made me want one and that hasn't changed since.
poing said:
Ah thanks, that explains it. Wow 0-60 in 8 seconds is slower than I expected! Must be a heavy old thing.
I'd still buy one, all those 80's films have made me desire one of these more than is even slightly sensible. The sound alone (however faked) in Risky Business made me want one and that hasn't changed since.
Autocar weighed it at 1518kg, and the early car was only 237 bhp (or 240, the quoted numbers vary slightly) and 257 lb ft. 3-speed slushbox with no lock-up and yawning chasms between ratios. You can't really expect miracles from those numbers.I'd still buy one, all those 80's films have made me desire one of these more than is even slightly sensible. The sound alone (however faked) in Risky Business made me want one and that hasn't changed since.
Apparently most of the ones used for Risky Business were 5-speed manual, which would have cheered things up a lot.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/08...
poing said:
Ah thanks, that explains it. Wow 0-60 in 8 seconds is slower than I expected! Must be a heavy old thing.
I'd still buy one, all those 80's films have made me desire one of these more than is even slightly sensible. The sound alone (however faked) in Risky Business made me want one and that hasn't changed since.
Once Porsche increased power in the later S/S2/S4/GT and the final swan song - the GTS - performance increased substantially. The GTS could crack the 0-62 in 5.4sec when tested in 1992. Where its real strength though was in its performance above 100mph. It was Derek Bell who remarked that the only contemporary Porsche that pulled harder above that speed was the 959. I'd still buy one, all those 80's films have made me desire one of these more than is even slightly sensible. The sound alone (however faked) in Risky Business made me want one and that hasn't changed since.
About 5yrs ago a friend in a S4 Manual and I in a GT engaged in some hanky-panky with an E46 M3 on a motorway. We both found it astonishing how much quicker the 928s were once we went past the 110 leptons mark. 100 to 140 - easy 3 car lengths, which is not bad for a 1970s design
Years ago, within a couple of days, I helped 2 friends with some DIY repairs, one with an XJS and the other with a 928.
The difference in quality of materials and design between the 2 cars, both from the same time, was vast.
The Porsche was just superb, like it was carved from a solid piece of granite. Every single thing on it was just top quality. The most mundane clips were wonderful. Bits that most people would never see were engineered to perfection.
The Jag was like a bag of bolts by comparison.
The difference in quality of materials and design between the 2 cars, both from the same time, was vast.
The Porsche was just superb, like it was carved from a solid piece of granite. Every single thing on it was just top quality. The most mundane clips were wonderful. Bits that most people would never see were engineered to perfection.
The Jag was like a bag of bolts by comparison.
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Pickled said:
Another fan and convert here, bought mine earlier this year and haven't regretted it once
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Now that early 911s in period correct but blinding colors are auctioned off at 250k this should easily be 50k. As a kid of the 70ies I never got the 911 craze. Those were just like squashed beetles and like beetles driven by the same elderly ladies to church, just by the ones with the italian handbags who never had change for the collection box...
A red 928 was mucho macho in comparison. Its about time that those get some attention as rolling sculptures...
A red 928 was mucho macho in comparison. Its about time that those get some attention as rolling sculptures...
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