M6 Caravan Carnage!
Discussion
Well, as a caravan owner I expected to see a few humorous comments but some have been a bit harsh.
For myself, I am very careful regarding loading, and even though I have a list of items which are carried in the front locker I check the noseweight before every trip including prior to setting off home from the site. Tyre pressures are meticulously attended to in the same way, both car and caravan. Contents of the 'van are easy, bedding and clothes always in the same places, and the awning strapped down inside over the axle. Speed on the open road set by the cruise control, and particular attention paid to what is coming up from behind prior to passing the HGVs. Sudden moves are a no-no, both from years of towing and motorcycling - smooth all the time keeps the outfit stable.
Perhaps because the car has sport (therefore nice and firm) suspension, the outfit is extremely stable and the low rear overhang also helps. Even when Van Man goes past at about 90 the caravan does not sway about all over the place.
One of the biggest problems I find is dithering drivers who potter along at 45-50 on clear open roads; they are the absolute bain of caravanners and HGV drivers. I can get by them quite well (depending on surrounding traffic), as the car has plenty of power, but heaven help the lorry drivers, who get stuck behing these morons for mile after mile.
So that is my 2 pennorth. Please don't tar all caravanners with the same brush. While I expected at least a few comical posts, there are lots of us PHers who are petrol heads as well as tuggers. Even with the 'van on, I like to make progress and on our regular trips down to the South Coast I come across at least a dozen or so dawdlers both ways. At my age I have learned to be patient but it is sometimes a strain....
Happy, safe motoring, all.
Pete
For myself, I am very careful regarding loading, and even though I have a list of items which are carried in the front locker I check the noseweight before every trip including prior to setting off home from the site. Tyre pressures are meticulously attended to in the same way, both car and caravan. Contents of the 'van are easy, bedding and clothes always in the same places, and the awning strapped down inside over the axle. Speed on the open road set by the cruise control, and particular attention paid to what is coming up from behind prior to passing the HGVs. Sudden moves are a no-no, both from years of towing and motorcycling - smooth all the time keeps the outfit stable.
Perhaps because the car has sport (therefore nice and firm) suspension, the outfit is extremely stable and the low rear overhang also helps. Even when Van Man goes past at about 90 the caravan does not sway about all over the place.
One of the biggest problems I find is dithering drivers who potter along at 45-50 on clear open roads; they are the absolute bain of caravanners and HGV drivers. I can get by them quite well (depending on surrounding traffic), as the car has plenty of power, but heaven help the lorry drivers, who get stuck behing these morons for mile after mile.
So that is my 2 pennorth. Please don't tar all caravanners with the same brush. While I expected at least a few comical posts, there are lots of us PHers who are petrol heads as well as tuggers. Even with the 'van on, I like to make progress and on our regular trips down to the South Coast I come across at least a dozen or so dawdlers both ways. At my age I have learned to be patient but it is sometimes a strain....
Happy, safe motoring, all.
Pete
Edited by Petemate on Saturday 13th September 12:16
Edited by Petemate on Saturday 13th September 12:16
TheJimi said:
Quite so.
Some of these comments are pathetic, to say the least.
Some of these comments are pathetic, to say the least.
MagneticMeerkat said:
It's quite amusing, lighten up! Well the caravan certainly has. But to think about this in slightly more detail: we live in a country with a booming tourist industry. Whenever I have wanted to go somewhere it's been possible to find a nearby hotel, guest house or self-catering cottage. It's fine.
What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
But this guy hits a new record.What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
Stiggolas said:
I would wager that 95% of all you guys taking the piss out of the poor caravan owner would be in tears if the accident involved an overturned car trailer with a rally / race car trashed. There's no difference in my eyes, its still someones pride and joy. Towing is towing whether it be car transporters or caravans. The same restrictions apply and the same accidents can occur. I suspect the centre of gravity of a trailer with a classic series Landrover is considerably higher than most caravans. I've towed both over plenty of years and the closest I ever came to an accident was towing the rally car! It got all snaky on me going downhill...
Sorry but I don't like seeing accidents involving ANY vehicle, always sad.
Well said. Sorry but I don't like seeing accidents involving ANY vehicle, always sad.
So, what else is new?
The "Clarkson" mindset here where caravans are concerned is misplaced. I dislike being stuck behind the things like most others but nowhere to the extent that I am stuck behind Elephant racers.
Caravans are a far lesser threat. Allowing commercial vehicles to become ever larger and ever more heavy is a real danger to most other road users but, that rarely gets a mention here. Not everything is required yesterday. Hauliers, particularly foreign based outfits, want even BIGGER commercials on our simply inadequate roads. As in the past, they'll probably get their way on a profits before people basis. 44 tonnes not enough and some of the monsters I see on our roads look badly overloaded.
I recently had to travel in the small hours to take folks to the AirPort for an early flight. I expected a near empty Motorway at that time. Boy was I wrong. Lines and lines of these five or six axle monsters.Looks like being that way 24/7/365 based on several such experiences.
Still, true to form, the bully boys pick on the relatively harmless caravaners whilst dodging the more serious issues on our Motorway and Roads which often resemble a form of madness most of the time.
It did not used to be like that.
TheJimi said:
To you guys gloating about the destruction, give yourselves some pause to consider that someone's P&J, as well as whatever contents that were inside, has been completely ruined.
Yeah, f
king hilarious.
Quite. Someone possibly saved hard, made sacrifices, had a dream of a nice life with a caravan. Their little home on wheels. I know a retired couple who tow their caravan all over. It's the little treat they promised themselves after a career in the army and then another public service. I know nothing about the people in this incident but I don't take pleasure at their misfortune.Yeah, f
king hilarious.Not to my taste, not to my style but seeing someine's belongings strewn across the road is far from funny.
MagneticMeerkat said:
It's quite amusing, lighten up! Well the caravan certainly has. But to think about this in slightly more detail: we live in a country with a booming tourist industry. Whenever I have wanted to go somewhere it's been possible to find a nearby hotel, guest house or self-catering cottage. It's fine.
What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
You write really well. Observant intelligent and eloquent. I really mean that. I really mean what I am about to write too. You come across as a bit of a What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
son. Perhaps you don't mean to. Perhaps you do.
s p a c e m a n said:
I'm bored so playing half arsed accident investigation from the skidmarks. Caravan was changing between lane 1 and 2 whilst slowing for the toll, it's been hit by the white 3 series locking up its n/s/f wheel. Caravan has hit the n/s barrier and the tow car has spun into the o/s barrier.
o/s rear of the caravan is damaged as is the n/s front of the bmw which doesn't look to have a tow bar, where's the tow car? BMW driver is the one looking sheepish on his own by the drivers door, all the others were in the tow car going for some old peoples gang bang dogging session
You're right, the tow car was facing the other way wedged into the O/S crash barrier.o/s rear of the caravan is damaged as is the n/s front of the bmw which doesn't look to have a tow bar, where's the tow car? BMW driver is the one looking sheepish on his own by the drivers door, all the others were in the tow car going for some old peoples gang bang dogging session
Edited by s p a c e m a n on Saturday 13th September 10:21
It can be seen in the uncut version of the picture you posted...
AB said:
You're right, the tow car was facing the other way wedged into the O/S crash barrier.
It can be seen in the uncut version of the picture you posted...
Oh no the caravan carnage humour police will now be complaining on here about the girl with the broom seeming to be actually laughing about the situation.It can be seen in the uncut version of the picture you posted...
okie592 said:
That's the first daily mail artical I've ever seen that didn't say the £27.000 caravan towed by the £45,000 white 170bhp BMW 5 series
I've not read it, but there were surely references to the age and ethnicity of the people involved and some mention of any daughters/grand-daughters, but only if they are attractive or a recipient of benefits, of course.
berlintaxi said:
MGJohn said:
The "Clarkson" mindset here where caravans are concerned is the dirge to spout when you're too feeble minded to try and think of an original thought yourself.
Corrected that for you.;)I'm no fan of caravans so the fact nobody was hurt allows me to find this amusing.
MagneticMeerkat said:
It's quite amusing, lighten up! Well the caravan certainly has. But to think about this in slightly more detail: we live in a country with a booming tourist industry. Whenever I have wanted to go somewhere it's been possible to find a nearby hotel, guest house or self-catering cottage. It's fine.
What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
What remains baffling is the insistence, by some, that their particular personal space, their environment and lifestyle, is of sufficient importance that it be miniaturised and badly loaded into a oversized biscuit tin on wheels - to the detriment of everyone else. Drivers, but not exclusively of course. There's the environment to consider: firstly needless concrete pans for the things to stand on. Not forgetting the vile infusion of chemicals and excrement lurking at the bottoms of their cassette lavatories.
These human hermit crabs, these elderly fleece wearing pseudo snails, why must you continue to annoy the rest of us? Your monomaniac desire to transport a velour and formica facsimile of your drudge filled existence to a damp field is a fruitless quest. One's view of the horizon is not broadened when viewed through a brown tinted plastic window.
So I say, as ever, it's actually quite funny. They'll no doubt be sweeping up shattered remnants of 'Wills and Kate' commemorative mugs and Elvis CDs for weeks! Lol!
The white knights of pistonheads aren't going to like that.
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