£12,000 to spend Tvr chimera v 911
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mikeyr said:
RetroWheels said:
£12000 will buy a lovely 4.0 TVR Chimaera or a fcked 911 996
Not totally true, a top 996 with full history and Hartech rebuild is totally achievable at that price. Just sold mine so I know! http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Quite appealing in an O.E unmessed with kind of way ,wont be the quickest thing (says the bloke in 1.8 the MR2
) but that's a good looking car and certainly doesn't look fcked.The Day After Vino me has managed to make the Real Time Vino me look a bit of a Dick .. well done Me
.I bought a chimp... it was crap... it leaked, the battery went flat, the speedo never worked properly, it handled like a ford model t, it was slow, but by God did it sound great.
I then bought a boxster 3.2s (most of the way to a 996). it was ultra-reliable, it was comfortable, it was quick, it handled well, but it was dull as dishwater and I spent my entire ownership paranoid that the engine would blow up.
Have a look at the BMW 6-series... a nice 650 would work well.
I then bought a boxster 3.2s (most of the way to a 996). it was ultra-reliable, it was comfortable, it was quick, it handled well, but it was dull as dishwater and I spent my entire ownership paranoid that the engine would blow up.
Have a look at the BMW 6-series... a nice 650 would work well.
That sort of money would also buy you a watertight, reliable and (relatively) well engineered Vauxhall Monaro. Most will come with a Wortec exhaust and sound like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvTzFx2zuU
They turn heads, quite cheap to run and will even manage 26 mpg on a run. Oh and they love to be modified so a bit of mild tuning will give you big V8 power!
I've owned mine for 8 years and have no plans to sell.
They turn heads, quite cheap to run and will even manage 26 mpg on a run. Oh and they love to be modified so a bit of mild tuning will give you big V8 power!
I've owned mine for 8 years and have no plans to sell.
RetroWheels said:
The Day After Vino me has managed to make the Real Time Vino me look a bit of a Dick .. well done Me .
No worries! .That's a nice example in the ad but top end price. I'm really missing mine and only sold it a couple of days ago.
Considered a Chim at the time but didn't float my boat sadly. Admire them though!
RetroWheels said:
Happy to be corrected on this, it looks like the cooking 996 hasn't been affected by the price increase in most other Pork, and a quick scan of Autotrader finds this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Nice, but how slow!?!? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Well, compared to TVR power anyways.
Loving this thread,had the same internal argument with myself!
My post was going to be that the 911 is boring unless driven 80% or more but is generally reliable, and tvr is an event every time,but you probably have to be handy with a spanner. £12k gets you a better tvr.
But that 996 for sale a few posts back looks bloody lovely and I would be VERY tempted. A decent (911) porsche wont be any cheaper.
My post was going to be that the 911 is boring unless driven 80% or more but is generally reliable, and tvr is an event every time,but you probably have to be handy with a spanner. £12k gets you a better tvr.
But that 996 for sale a few posts back looks bloody lovely and I would be VERY tempted. A decent (911) porsche wont be any cheaper.
As i type my Chimaera 500 is being driven to Sweden by it's new owner - new outriggers, 330mm AP brakes, Nitron's , Image split rim wheels,Roll bar, the list is endless.
Propper Fast, and handled like a big Elise on track, £995 more than the OP's budget, and fully prepped and sold by Track V Road .. should never have sol it.
Propper Fast, and handled like a big Elise on track, £995 more than the OP's budget, and fully prepped and sold by Track V Road .. should never have sol it.
JonRB said:
RetroWheels said:
£12000 will buy a lovely 4.0 TVR Chimaera or a fcked 911 996 - as for any other 911 forget it (beyond a rebuild/write off).
It's a ludicrous situation, but that's the TVR/Porsche relationship... 'twas ever thus , so make the most of it
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Quite. For that money you will get a really good Chimaera or a really ropey Porsche. Go figure. It's a ludicrous situation, but that's the TVR/Porsche relationship... 'twas ever thus , so make the most of it
.Buy wisely though - all Chimaeras will be prone to outrigger rot to some degree depending on how they have been kept and maintained (apart from the ones that have had a body-off restoration, of course).
Jasandjules said:
RetroWheels said:
Happy to be corrected on this, it looks like the cooking 996 hasn't been affected by the price increase in most other Pork, and a quick scan of Autotrader finds this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Nice, but how slow!?!? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Well, compared to TVR power anyways.
Dalto123 said:
Much as I love Porsche, at that price I wouldn't even buy a 911. My money would be on an immaculate 986 Boxster S you can get for £10k - £12k should see you into a nice example Chimaera 
Good call on the Boxster.Neither that or the 12 grand 911 are an event though.
Everyday year round use - yeah, probably a Porsche, with airbags, ABS etc. But for a weekend toy? Hmmm.
Toss up between a 911 (with a rebuilt engine) or a Chimaera (with the outriggers done or proved to be 100% solid) - TVR wins.
If you want a hobby (or want to pay for someone to support your hobby) then go for a Chim. It will always be an event. Don't go into TVR ownership expecting not to have to give it regular TLC of some sort, whether that is general preventative maintenance or just sticking back odd bits of trim.
IMO a 911 has more accessible power, be more reliable, comfortable, leak less & handle better but it's not really an event to drive in the way a TVR is.
IMO a 911 has more accessible power, be more reliable, comfortable, leak less & handle better but it's not really an event to drive in the way a TVR is.
What part of the country are you from Steve?
If you are the Midlands area then I'm more than happy to meet up with you talk things through and a drive out of course.
If not my area then if you go to the TVR forums then you will find many like minded people that would be more than happy to offer the same.
If you are the Midlands area then I'm more than happy to meet up with you talk things through and a drive out of course.
If not my area then if you go to the TVR forums then you will find many like minded people that would be more than happy to offer the same.
RetroWheels said:
As i type my Chimaera 500 is being driven to Sweden by it's new owner - new outriggers, 330mm AP brakes, Nitron's , Image split rim wheels,Roll bar, the list is endless.
Propper Fast, and handled like a big Elise on track, £995 more than the OP's budget, and fully prepped and sold by Track V Road .. should never have sol it.
I really like that!Propper Fast, and handled like a big Elise on track, £995 more than the OP's budget, and fully prepped and sold by Track V Road .. should never have sol it.
village idiot said:
I bought a chimp... it was crap... it leaked, the battery went flat, the speedo never worked properly, it handled like a ford model t, it was slow, but by God did it sound great.
I then bought a boxster 3.2s (most of the way to a 996). it was ultra-reliable, it was comfortable, it was quick, it handled well, but it was dull as dishwater and I spent my entire ownership paranoid that the engine would blow up.
Have a look at the BMW 6-series... a nice 650 would work well.
Nope my tvr handles better than my model T, and my 650 is boring. I then bought a boxster 3.2s (most of the way to a 996). it was ultra-reliable, it was comfortable, it was quick, it handled well, but it was dull as dishwater and I spent my entire ownership paranoid that the engine would blow up.
Have a look at the BMW 6-series... a nice 650 would work well.
TVR vote from me.
wormus said:
That sort of money would also buy you a watertight, reliable and (relatively) well engineered Vauxhall Monaro. Most will come with a Wortec exhaust and sound like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvTzFx2zuU
They turn heads, quite cheap to run and will even manage 26 mpg on a run. Oh and they love to be modified so a bit of mild tuning will give you big V8 power!
I've owned mine for 8 years and have no plans to sell.
You have a reasonable budget, OP, so it would be a great shame if you ended up with a Monaro. If you're looking for a cool car that will be an event to drive, I wouldn't choose the Monaro, especially if you're looking for enjoyment on the roads of the UK. They turn heads, quite cheap to run and will even manage 26 mpg on a run. Oh and they love to be modified so a bit of mild tuning will give you big V8 power!
I've owned mine for 8 years and have no plans to sell.
You could bag a good 996 911 for your money, though it would likely be a model which has seen a good few years of use and careful maintenance. It would no doubt surpass the TVR in every logical respect, though you'd be advised to do your homework before buying and have a prospective purchase properly inspected before handing over your money, mainly to check for the IMS/RMS issues rearing it's head (I gather you can spot them as a weeping spot of oil if you know where to look). Get a sorted one and it'll do you well for all days, all weathers and all purposes. Will it feel more of an event than the TVR? That all depends. The TVR will likely present more immediate character and charm, and will be more enjoyable at lower speeds. Either will be a good choice, as long as it's the right car for you.
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