RE: C63 AMG - Owners' views
Discussion
I can't really fault these. Gotta love daily drivers with huge engines that make some immense noises. The only issues are the obvious MPG and fuel woes. I do seem to see quite a few about though so they're not very exclusive i suppose.
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
culpz said:
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Agree and BMW went for a high rev/low torque V8 which is fine for the track but not too much use out on the road as a daily driver, the AMG V8 has far more theatre lower down in terms of noise and torque and for me it is the far more appealing engine.A lot love the top end fireworks with the M3 but I got frustrated because not much happens below 6k revs, and its not an easy engine to get the best from unless you have clear roads in front of you constantly.
CaptainSensib1e said:
Interesting this thread popping up, have been strongly considering one of these as you can now pick up a C63 AMG Coupe for under £30k. Seems a like a hell of a lot of car for the money, they haven't held their value very well at all.
MB must've sold loads via leasing.cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Agree and BMW went for a high rev/low torque V8 which is fine for the track but not too much use out on the road as a daily driver, the AMG V8 has far more theatre lower down in terms of noise and torque and for me it is the far more appealing engine.A lot love the top end fireworks with the M3 but I got frustrated because not much happens below 6k revs, and its not an easy engine to get the best from unless you have clear roads in front of you constantly.
culpz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Agree and BMW went for a high rev/low torque V8 which is fine for the track but not too much use out on the road as a daily driver, the AMG V8 has far more theatre lower down in terms of noise and torque and for me it is the far more appealing engine.A lot love the top end fireworks with the M3 but I got frustrated because not much happens below 6k revs, and its not an easy engine to get the best from unless you have clear roads in front of you constantly.
I do adore the engine in the C63 and maybe one day I will tick the box as I get older and less interested in manual gearboxes.
In saying that though an Auto is a perfect match for a daily driver arguably anyway.
I wonder when the value of these will bottom out? Is it a future classic? ( i think it could be). Decent ones seem to be about half the price they were new and some are going for cheaper than that. I reckon come the next recession (12-18 mths time) these will become bargains. If the petrol price goes up as well that will help.
This could potentially be a bargain soon so all you lucky owners - please treat your car well (2 bucket cleaning, meguiars products, don't thrash it, regular oil changes etc please) as I will likely buy one of these next*
This could potentially be a bargain soon so all you lucky owners - please treat your car well (2 bucket cleaning, meguiars products, don't thrash it, regular oil changes etc please) as I will likely buy one of these next*
- to all the materialistic xxxxs on here - yes I will be buying a second hand car that will have been discontinued. Deal with it munchkins.
cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Agree and BMW went for a high rev/low torque V8 which is fine for the track but not too much use out on the road as a daily driver, the AMG V8 has far more theatre lower down in terms of noise and torque and for me it is the far more appealing engine.A lot love the top end fireworks with the M3 but I got frustrated because not much happens below 6k revs, and its not an easy engine to get the best from unless you have clear roads in front of you constantly.
I do adore the engine in the C63 and maybe one day I will tick the box as I get older and less interested in manual gearboxes.
In saying that though an Auto is a perfect match for a daily driver arguably anyway.
It's a shame cos it puts me off a lot of cars but there's still split opinions to whether it's really a big an issue that it's being made out to be. I suppose it's something you've gotta try and see if it suits you.
culpz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
culpz said:
Always wondered how Mercedes managed to make such a big V8 N/A lump that still has bags of torque available low down but still available all through the rev range. Seems to be the main reason these get picked over the E92 M3 which appears to be the opposite.
Agree and BMW went for a high rev/low torque V8 which is fine for the track but not too much use out on the road as a daily driver, the AMG V8 has far more theatre lower down in terms of noise and torque and for me it is the far more appealing engine.A lot love the top end fireworks with the M3 but I got frustrated because not much happens below 6k revs, and its not an easy engine to get the best from unless you have clear roads in front of you constantly.
I do adore the engine in the C63 and maybe one day I will tick the box as I get older and less interested in manual gearboxes.
In saying that though an Auto is a perfect match for a daily driver arguably anyway.
It's a shame cos it puts me off a lot of cars but there's still split opinions to whether it's really a big an issue that it's being made out to be. I suppose it's something you've gotta try and see if it suits you.
The Auto gearbox debate is really personal preference I think because you get the interaction from a manual that the Auto/DCT just doesn't offer, but in a daily driving situation stuck in traffic the Auto/DCT makes more sense I think or is easier anyway.
ORD said:
There's simply no argument. The M3 is vastly better as a driver's car. The C63 is more barge than sports saloon, and it is available only as an auto (which rules it out as a driver's car).
I do understand what you are getting at and an Auto/DCT gearbox completely changes the feel of a car. ORD said:
There's simply no argument. The M3 is vastly better as a driver's car. The C63 is more barge than sports saloon, and it is available only as an auto (which rules it out as a driver's car).
On a track yes, on the road the difference is minimal.The FL C63's have the MCT box which is no DCT but much better. I would take a C63 any day over an M3 as I don't track. All the fun in an M3 is 5k rpm+ in my experience, whereas there is so much fun to be had in the C63 when at low speed and low revs.
ORD said:
There's simply no argument. The M3 is vastly better as a driver's car. The C63 is more barge than sports saloon, and it is available only as an auto (which rules it out as a driver's car).
Sorry but if you want a "drivers car" you don't buy a heavy 4 door saloon. Go on a track day and compare a M3 to a Z4 back to back. You will have more fun in a Z4. These sort of cars are mile eating monsters designed for quick progress in style and comfort. For that you need a decent auto (esp in the congested UK).
If you have a proper drivers car (porsche) THEN go for a manual.
CaptainSensib1e said:
Interesting this thread popping up, have been strongly considering one of these as you can now pick up a C63 AMG Coupe for under £30k. Seems a like a hell of a lot of car for the money, they haven't held their value very well at all.
Interested to hear of any owners who've been running one for a few years, how do you find living with it day-to-day?
They're doing a much better job of it than the E90/92 M3!Interested to hear of any owners who've been running one for a few years, how do you find living with it day-to-day?
ORD said:
There's simply no argument. The M3 is vastly better as a driver's car. The C63 is more barge than sports saloon, and it is available only as an auto (which rules it out as a driver's car).
Was waiting for you to show up.
Edited by JockySteer on Wednesday 23 March 12:20
Innowaybored said:
ORD said:
There's simply no argument. The M3 is vastly better as a driver's car. The C63 is more barge than sports saloon, and it is available only as an auto (which rules it out as a driver's car).
Sorry but if you want a "drivers car" you don't buy a heavy 4 door saloon. You're all bonkers 
The M3 is better as a driver's car. Nobody can seriously disagree. But you'll all pretend that you do for Internet points. Nobheads.
If you want a cruiser, don't buy either the C63 or the M3. Buy something softly sprung, probably FWD and just give up on driving for pleasure.
The M3 is better as a driver's car. Nobody can seriously disagree. But you'll all pretend that you do for Internet points. Nobheads.
If you want a cruiser, don't buy either the C63 or the M3. Buy something softly sprung, probably FWD and just give up on driving for pleasure.
scherzkeks said:
Don't feed the troll.
One of us has driven an M3 and a Z4 M back to back on a track. One of us would agree with far better drivers who drive BMWs professionally that the Z4 is a proper drivers car. Clue: It isn't you.
A M3 is a superb , incredible car. But it is a bit like buying a hifi "system" - sure it is an great all round performer but it will never, ever compete with something designed specifically for the job in hand (like a decent DAC for example).
If you disagree then you're an idiot.
This takes nothing away from the M3 being one of the finest all rounders on the road today.
ORD said:
You're all bonkers
The M3 is better as a driver's car. Nobody can seriously disagree. But you'll all pretend that you do for Internet points. Nobheads.
If you want a cruiser, don't buy either the C63 or the M3. Buy something softly sprung, probably FWD and just give up on driving for pleasure.
And you're tiresome. I'm not disagreeing with you at all - merely stated I thought you'd be along with your bells and whistles, chiming the driver's car tune. And I was right. Still, the C63 is more appealing day to day, which is the general consensus of this thread.The M3 is better as a driver's car. Nobody can seriously disagree. But you'll all pretend that you do for Internet points. Nobheads.
If you want a cruiser, don't buy either the C63 or the M3. Buy something softly sprung, probably FWD and just give up on driving for pleasure.
Are all FWD cars bereft of driving pleasure/not driver's cars?
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