New Road Tax Law
Discussion
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/direct-debit-an...
DVLA will offer motorists the ability to spread their vehicle tax payments should they wish to do so. For vehicle tax starting from 1 November 2014, motorists will be able to pay vehicle tax by direct debit annually, biannually or monthly. There will be no additional handling fees for annual payments but to limit the impact on the public finances there will be a small surcharge of 5% of vehicle tax for biannual and monthly payments. This is half of the 10% surcharge that is currently applied to 6 monthly tax discs and which has been in existence for a number of decades.
DVLA will offer motorists the ability to spread their vehicle tax payments should they wish to do so. For vehicle tax starting from 1 November 2014, motorists will be able to pay vehicle tax by direct debit annually, biannually or monthly. There will be no additional handling fees for annual payments but to limit the impact on the public finances there will be a small surcharge of 5% of vehicle tax for biannual and monthly payments. This is half of the 10% surcharge that is currently applied to 6 monthly tax discs and which has been in existence for a number of decades.
So if the seller cancels his tax online at the point of sale how does a buyer without instant internet access, and a credit/debit card presumably, tax it to legally drive it away ?
No road tax in France te he !
EDIT: and the car is insured not the driver too, so much more civilised.
No road tax in France te he !
EDIT: and the car is insured not the driver too, so much more civilised.
Edited by Expatloon on Thursday 18th September 08:54
Expatloon said:
So if the seller cancels his tax online at the point of sale how does a buyer without instant internet access, and a credit/debit card presumably, tax it to legally drive it away ?
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The buyer goes to a post office, just like if you buy a SORN car or one without tax now?]
Expatloon said:
So if the seller cancels his tax online at the point of sale how does a buyer without instant internet access, and a credit/debit card presumably, tax it to legally drive it away ?
No road tax in France te he !
EDIT: and the car is insured not the driver too, so much more civilised.
But can a seller cancel tax online? As I've read it the tax is not cancelled until DVLA receive the change of keeper by post. They will take a week or two to process that so effectively the buyer can drive away as the car is taxed. Also unless the DVLA start doing refunds of less than one month, tax has been paid on the car up to the end of the current month. As there will be no tax discs nobody will have a visual indication if the car is taxed or not. Until the change of keeper is processed by DVLA the car will show as taxed if Bib check on it.No road tax in France te he !
EDIT: and the car is insured not the driver too, so much more civilised.
Edited by Expatloon on Thursday 18th September 08:54
According to DVLA: (my bold)
From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.
You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week on 0300 123 4321.
Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
To me that is pretty unequivocal, you must renew the tax yourself BEFORE driving the vehicle and you are given three options to do it.
It doesn't matter if the seller cancels the current tax or not or if the vehicle shows up as taxed on the database the defining act is the change in ownership as evidenced and dated by the V5C and if the new owner does not renew the tax immediately on taking possession (or declare SORN) then he is banged to rights and a fine will follow.
From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.
You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week on 0300 123 4321.
Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
To me that is pretty unequivocal, you must renew the tax yourself BEFORE driving the vehicle and you are given three options to do it.
It doesn't matter if the seller cancels the current tax or not or if the vehicle shows up as taxed on the database the defining act is the change in ownership as evidenced and dated by the V5C and if the new owner does not renew the tax immediately on taking possession (or declare SORN) then he is banged to rights and a fine will follow.
Expatloon said:
According to DVLA: (my bold)
From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.
You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week on 0300 123 4321.
Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
To me that is pretty unequivocal,...
I was in a post office less than 20 minutes ago and they had a sign up in the cashier's window saying they cannot do road tax. Perhaps it's only *some* post offices that works with.From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.
You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week on 0300 123 4321.
Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
To me that is pretty unequivocal,...
Toaster Pilot said:
Does anyone know how this affects traders who have taxed cars in stock today? If sold after 1st October, will the tax automatically be refunded to the previous owner?!
Most traders cash in the road tax on vehicles they take in as a matter of course, it's just dripping away to no benefit otherwise, they can use trade plates to take cars out for demos so don't need it.In any case the dealer is the owner not the person who traded it and even if it's not actually registered to them if the existing tax was part of the deal then any rebates belong to them.
Did you chuck a taxed car in perhaps ?
I have to assume that technically all taxed cars in trade will become untaxed on Oct 1st !
I am a trader.
You are no longer allowed to cash in the tax on cars you take in part exchange or acquire by other means - the registered keeper would need to be the person to do that (and that has been the case for years)
I have vehicles in stock that are taxed, some of which I use for SD&P as well as MT
(your point about trade plates being correct, but I can't use those to go to Tesco for a pint of milk)
You are no longer allowed to cash in the tax on cars you take in part exchange or acquire by other means - the registered keeper would need to be the person to do that (and that has been the case for years)
I have vehicles in stock that are taxed, some of which I use for SD&P as well as MT
(your point about trade plates being correct, but I can't use those to go to Tesco for a pint of milk)
Edited by Toaster Pilot on Thursday 18th September 15:50
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